Gents I am THRILLED to announce that Jeffrey Epstein is now part of the story.

I’ve read the Washington Post article. It seems to be missing any evidence whatsoever on Snyder, Allen and Gruden. Santos et al are collateral damage, those involved have been rightfully fired and an advisor has been brought into to overhaul the culture. That’s the end of this massive scandal.

Does hanners know grant supports the “redskins”? He will be whatsapping a london antifa cell to let grant’s bike tyres down…

i’m betting most of the original content of this article got suppressed by the nfl. they released the ‘me too’ stuff and a few lower level employees have been implicated. all of the allegations that would have been extremely damaging to the nfl were left out and that’s a pretty strange coincidence, especially given that the release of the article was repeatedly delayed. i want the information about the refs being paid.

    Along_the_Wire How come? I know a Lions fan here in the UK - he can’t answer that question.

    When I was learning the game here in Australia I was playing running back and I loved Barry Sanders. I had this VHS tape called NFL Rocks and it was highlights to hair metal tunes and I wore out the tape watching this section over and over:

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      jonattonyeah My man. Brutal. Had two of the best 10 players ever (IMO - Barry and Megatron) and haven’t managed to pull anything together.

      Both retired early as well, just couldn’t do it anymore. LOL.

        I just want to see this Snyder and Epstein pic I keep seeing dangled on reddit and twitter.

        Along_the_Wire maybe? i don’t remember. the nfl is only about money and pr that affects their bottom line. i wish i didn’t enjoy football so much, i really hate the nfl as an organization.

          There’s probably more to come out of this. Could do with a quick Bezos takeover and rename them the Washington Primes.

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            Fuck me, Ron Rivera is an enigma - makes Haskins QB1 and he hasn’t even thrown a competitive pass in a completely new scheme and now dumps AP after getting rid of Guice leaving us in all sorts of bother at RB. Don’t get it.

              Along_the_Wire it’s the washington football team, does it really matter? it’s amazing they’ve performed as well as they have given that sexual harassment seems to be the only thing they put any effort into.

              i’m just happy the raiders aren’t the biggest shit show in the league now. not that my expectations for this season are drastically high.

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                  Thoughts on Carr? I think he sucks and will be gone this time next year. They have some good offensive weapons. He just refuses to do anything but throw to the checkdown. He’s worse than Alex Smith in that regard.

                      jonattonyeah he’s a quarterback who should easliy be top 10, now whether that happens, i’m not sure. he’s in the 3rd year of gruden’s system, which is how long it normally takes qbs to figure it out (that’s where it clicked for gannon). our receivers should be better than last year, but they’re young, so that’s a crap shoot, but we have a great o-line, te, and rb. this will be his make or break it year.

                      and he doesn’t throw the check down as much as the perception indicates. i don’t have it in front of me, but someone on reddit put together a detailed breakdown of his passing stats and he throws as many accurate deep balls as anyone in the league; my complaint is that he could run more to extend plays and doesn’t. the offense last year was based around ab and we had to scrap half the playbook in late august, which is a real problem.

                      we’ll see how it goes, 10-6 would make me pretty happy, especially with our young defense.

                          303abuser and he doesn’t throw the check down as much as the perception indicates

                          Yeah I guess that’s just anecdotal for me. Watched quite a bit of the Raiders last year (even went to two games) and the number of times I remember him throwing it more than like 7 yards were few and far between.

                          But top 10? Who you bumping?

                          Mahomes
                          Lamar
                          Rodgers
                          Wilson
                          Deshaun
                          Brees
                          Prescott
                          Ryan
                          Stafford
                          Wentz

                          And I’m leaving off Brady (age, who knows), Rivers (same), Big Ben (again, same), Murray and Mayfield (who could improve), and Tannehill (let’s see more than a season). You’d take Carr over any of them? EDIT and forgot Joe Burrow who it sounds like could be good right out of the gate.

                              jonattonyeah last year was rough as we had no receivers to get open; renfrew was a late round pick, a small slot receiver, and was probably carr’s 2nd best option, next to waller at te. ab going crazy really fucked the entire offense.

                              i’m talking potential with carr, but if you look at last years stats, there’s an argument to be made he was very close to top 10 already. out of the guys you listed, mahomes, lamar rodgers, wilson and deshaun are all better. carr has the potential to be in that group. brees is on the edge of the cliff, dak is garbage, ryan looks done, stafford plays for the lions (he’s obviously good, but it’s the lions), wentz is average at best and i wouldn’t trade carr straight across for him.

                              i maintain that brady has never been a great qb and i’m not going write an essay about it, but i could. take out the coach, the cheat, league bias, and the tuck game and he probably doesn’t start in the league. he’s going to be exposed this year and people will blame it on age. rivers is awful and has no arm left; ben might be ok if he’s in better shape, but he’s almost done; murray might be great; mayfield is way over-hyped considering he’s done nothing; tannehill had one good season and isn’t in carr’s league.

                              there’s a lot of mediocrity at the qb position at the moment. old guys on the decline, young guys who haven’t proved it yet and carr is as good an option for the next year or two as we’re going to find. that said, bringing in competition is always a good thing and if he plays poorly this year with a better supporting staff, then cut him loose.

                                Don has gone too far this time. am fully team Biden now!