The people who are most missing out nowadays are the mangers.

I mean, if Spotify were around in the 90’s, there is no way I could ledge it like I do.

    Smallman1 joke aside, is that actually true? wouldn’t most touring singers/bands/djs still employ managers that are well-paid?

      Of course not.

      The combination of album sales and touring/merchandise sales made it a win win for all.

      Take single/album sales out of it and things are a lot more difficult commercially.

        Smallman1 yeah that’s what i though, just making sure i’m not completely out of touch. 😉

          There’s been no money in music sales for years, that’s not down to Spotify

          exactly, if you’re not already popular, it’s almost impossible to become popular. algorithms aren’t helping, but they’re not the cause. we’ve got an excellent system for consumers, just not for the people who spend the time and money to produce music. that’s been the dichotomy between djs and producers for years too.

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          another massive dub techno list …

          2 months later

          for those of us already making nothing from spotify, maybe this does help with exposure, but they’ll actually have to add small artists to the big playlists and i have yet to see more than a handful of examples.

          i read something the other day about the about deezer (i think, could be wrong about the platform) using a model where a subscriber pays their monthly fee and that fee is divided specifically between the artists they listen to, instead of kicking that money into a pool that ends up mostly being paid to a very small percentage of very popular artists. seems like a much better system and a step in the right direction.

          19 days later

          Some of the “Track IDs” playlists are quite good. Dixon’s being one I’ve enjoyed.

          saw that one yesterday, but haven’t checked it out yet. maybe i’ll put that one on tonight.

          6 months later

          Amps That Dude always chips in on everything music related….Zzz. Had to Google who he was.

            Amps nothing will tempt me to spend £18 on the new Skee Mask album on bandcamp. Irrespective of how much of it goes to him, It’s a rip off.

            • Dan replied to this.

                Amps yes, I do, but ripping off the consumer isn’t the way to address it.

                • Amps replied to this.

                    Amps the streaming services need to offer artists more. I have an apple music sub which I would be happy to pay more for (if it went ti the artists). The days of £15 albums are long gone

                      Dan thanks for the warning. Didn’t think he would match compro again

                      • Dan replied to this.

                          Amps He’s said some foolish things on social media. I have the upmost respect for all artists, but he seems like a bit of a lost it case with his ‘views’.

                          • Amps replied to this.

                              alistair It all sounds like it’s on the wrong speed. Emperor’s new clothes syndrome.

                                  Dan I had no idea, don’t follow him. If he’s some hollow earther / no planer / antivaxer / tory he can fuck off, but sad to see anyone being done over by shitty labels. I used to walk past Rham back in my college days.

                                    alistair I’m not suggesting anyone should rip off the consumer. I don’t think anyone even wants the consumer to pay more? It’s to do with the deals the labels are signing with the streamers and how the money is distributed. The labels being even more complicit than the streamers in some instances.

                                        Amps we are broadly speaking in the same place on this one.

                                          Amps No empathy for musicians and producers being ripped off?

                                          Someone’s got to pay for the school fees Amps!

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                                              Weren’t we talking about punchable faces?

                                              3 years later

                                              Never been a Spotify user but have just got the family plan for my Mrs and kids.

                                              I’ve been through the various Spotify threads on here and added a few playlists from those. Do any of you lot have any other good playlists you’d care to share?

                                              Cheers