Worst of all, other potential candidates are saying VP Harris is the natural successor and we would never step on her toes… This is beyond disastrous. If there is ANYONE that has a worse shot than Joe it is Kamala.

Trump is gonna walk it. Unless he’s either doing bird or brown bread.

What a time to be alive

    The DMC are absolute clown shoes. Two party systems eh?

      Old-Dutch Trump is gonna walk it. Unless he’s either doing bird or brown bread.

      I still think Joe is more likely to win than Don, but the conditional are comically similar to 2016 so anything is possible.

      It was pointed out on my favorite pod cast that Joe losing to Don would be the perfect ending to his career. Most of you probably don’t know anouting about Brandon, before he became potus, so let me tell you that he was an extremely right wing Dem who fucked up everything he touched, and was on the wrong side of countless issues. It would be beyond fitting for him to fall to Don thus completely erasing the only positive thing he ever did, which was beat Don in 2020.

      It also shouldn’t be forgotten that Joe ran on saying he was going to be a stop gap and that he was only running because someone needed to prevent Trump destroying our democracy. Now, he is suddenly two term material.

      Its funny. The Dems cleared the field for Hillary in 2016 when Joe would have beaten Don. Now they are doing the exact same thing for Joe in 2020 when Hillary would clear Don easily.

          zackster It was pointed out on my favorite pod cast that Joe losing to Don would be the perfect ending to his career. Most of you probably don’t know anouting about Brandon, before he became potus, so let me tell you that he was an extremely right wing Dem who fucked up everything he touched, and was on the wrong side of countless issues. It would be beyond fitting for him to fall to Don thus completely erasing the only positive thing he ever did, which was beat Don in 2020

          Biden is an absolute fucking cunt and has screwed the average American over all his life.

              Old-Dutch He’s clearly got away with all sorts of shenanigans with his son but the mainstream media don’t want to touch it

                  zackster

                  An ‘every’ war proponent.

                  Also voted with Clinton and Obama to allow pharma to completely and utterly take the piss out of cirizens who had to pay extortionate amounts for everyday drugs, produced in the USA at vastly higher prices than the rest of the world

                    zackster Hillary would clear Don easily

                    Do they still go on about her emails?

                      As discussed before, Trump isn’t walking anything without winning a huge chunk of swing voters. Watching videos of braindead “USA” chanters filming a reality TV star with their phones is not a fair assessment of his chances. If anything he’ll have less voters than 2020. His cult are solidified but who cares about those mongos, they were tea party cultists 10 years ago and they’ll move onto the next fad when Trump is stinking out prison.

                        LT42 Trump isn’t walking anything without winning a huge chunk of swing voters

                        This is the crux of it. And to be even more specific in this case swing voters = suburban women. Don does not poll well there, nor does any other Repub for that matter, because of Dobbs. However, Joe is also struggling with this demographic which i was makes him such a uniquely funny/bad candidate.

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                            zackster yeah, most people with a screed of conscience would be disgusted by him and would vote for a donkey’s bollox rather than go through that nightmare again.
                            Best he can hope for is to delay his imminent incarceration by tying up the courts with frivilous appeals, which he’s currently trying but not succeeding with.
                            The lay of the land is a lot different to how he’s been promoted on right wing social media, they truly are living in a vacuum and reality is just around the corner. The con is in its death throes.

                              Today, my best guess would be Joe wins by a bigger margin than most people would expect. Post election everyone (Repubs) will start grappling with the post Dobbs reality. To me this is far from ideal; while it keeps Don out of office it also takes the pressure off of Dems to do ANYTHING they don’t want to because they will endlessly run on we protect a woman’s right to choose. That is where they always have wanted to be and largely were, until they cleared the field for Hillary and fumbled the bag.

                              The only itch I have is that the stupid cunt got elected in 2016 in the 1st place so Yank voters clearly can’t be trusted and therefore anything is possible, although less likely than 2016 at this point.

                              Oh it’s absolutely possible. The path is exactly the same as 2016: voter apathy due a wildly unpopular D candidate. Young people hate Brandon’s guts and don’t really give a shit who wins the election. I am absolutely in the bucket, and will be voting for Dr. West. This is how I would be voting regardless, however I think a different candidate could easily sway the votes required to make it a lock. Gruesome Gavin is the name most popular in the press right now, but I think there are plenty of people D’s would rally around if given the opportunity. The problem is that the party is dogshit. This is the perfect example of why neo-liberalism needs to fail in order for any meaningful change to happen, which is again why I don’t really give a shit how things shake out.