Old-Dutch Normally I’d agree but it would be prudent to take stock of just how deep a hole he’s dug himself into this time and he’s taking a few people into the abyss with him. Without the protection of the Presidency he’s fucked and it looks like Mark Meadows is already a cooperating witness. There’s a good chance Guiliani flipped on him too. Unless he has a well placed judge, unlike Cannon who was way out of her depth, then I don’t see anything but a conviction, which he will 100% appeal, but ultimately he will go down. The crimes are too grand and the DoJ are playing a blinder.