Give him credit for being honest about dealing and being a druggy but kinda gives you a glimpse into how stupid and talentless the whole thing was back then. Now it’s producer then a dj way it should be. Check Lawler’s discogs didn’t produce a bloody thing typical 90s con man.

    Dry-Tinder Always thought he was technically brilliant (like Zabiela) but he played some absolutely dross. Not even his VDJ set up could save him.

      *Millsy shuffles into the thread like Chief Wiggum to hamfistedly deal with an already banned Flares one day after everyone else noticed him.

      I halved a banger with Sander in that club with the egg shaped dj booth in Dublin (the name of the club escapes me, closed now) and subsequently dropped a load of his cd’s out of his wallet, on to the ground 20 mins later whilst leafing through them.
      Never said a word to me about it, Top bloke imo.

      Serious bangers to be fair

        Funky Now it’s producer then a dj way it should be

        Think I’ve heard way more talented DJs that became producers after and heard some really shocking DJs that were producers first. 🤷

            Juan Atkins the Pioneer of techno, but can’t mix a vodka & orange.

            Reckon I must be a double double-boss producer then!

            Tom Stephan was mentioned as a blast from the past the other day, he was another great producer for a while but an absolute dogshit dj.

              BlainSA Name one, they all got help from ghost producers no way did any of them have the time and dedication to sit in a studio for endless hours to learn properly. It takes years to sound professional.

              These djs from that era where doing 5 gigs a week flat out on drink n coke, the brain fog must of been immense. Sasha would off been no where without May.

              Guy J did both pretty sure from starting out, Jody Wisernoff was the brains behind way out west he knows his stuff. Derrick May another but so many faked there way to the top in the 90s and it gave our music a bad name.

                  Therein lies Lawler’s beef with Holden. Probably thought at that time he hadn’t paid his dues. Fucking talent gap as wide as the Mersey tunnel 🤣

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                    alistair The feedback from my mate was that Holden was obviously highly intelligent but looked really awkward poolside in Miami 🤣

                    Think Will from the inbetweeners.

                      Also Holden used to moan that the scene was full of old Producers/DJ’s in their 40’s. He’s 43 and still going?

                        Dan He’s always been a musician first (when did he last DJ?) and in my humble opinion, his latest album is a career highlight. Outgrew the confines of “the scene” early on. Lawler’s merely a DJ that had his day

                            alistair I wouldn’t say Lawler has had his day as he’s still booked out regularly.

                            I’m no fan tbh.

                              Funky It doesn’t matter whether they had ghost writers. You’re talking about djing, not producing. How about you name a producer that’s now a DJ that is better than Sasha was at his peak?

                                Dan He’s playing live. Was hoping to catch him myself but there isn’t a London show yet. Appears to be a lot busier on RA than Lawler 🤣

                                    alistair Was hoping to catch him myself but there isn’t a London show yet

                                    Pretty sure I saw him billed in April for a London show.

                                      He was in Folkestone the other week.

                                      He was decent around then, when he got his shit together.

                                      All said and done Holden ‘DJing’ for want of a better term, was and still is one of the worst things live I’ve ever heard. I mean it was absolutely abysmal on every level. We left after about an hour. He looked like a heroin vagrant who’d found someone’s records in a bin.

                                      Amps His Firin Off (?) covermount CD was excellent.

                                      I saw him twice IIRC, once at Gurnmills, maybe once at Tribal Sessions.

                                      The time I saw him at Gurnmills he was wank, just playing one tribal banger after another, almost no attention to sequencing or mixing.

                                          Did Holden get rid of his druggy manager girlfriend from the 2000s, or is he still with her?

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                                            rhouses By the look of him I’d say they are still happily together.

                                                bosstrabs His Firin Off (?) covermount CD was excellent.

                                                Beat me to it - it still gets the occasional spin.

                                                (it’s ‘Warmin’ Up / Firin’ Off’, two discs)

                                                  bosstrabs The time I saw him at Gurnmills he was wank, just playing one tribal banger after another, almost no attention to sequencing or mixing.

                                                  Think you might have caught him on an off day, or I caught him on a good day. Smashed the Cream main room iirc.

                                                    LawLer heavily mentions Tenaglia as an influence for Lights Out. This popped up in my YouTube feed - It’s worth a watch as the lad asks the right questions to DT who gives an interesting interview.

                                                      Dan Tenaglia’s decline has been even more precipitous than Lawler’s albeit from a much greater height 😂

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