Amps & Zdog's Viva La Revolution thread

Amps · 3 Jan

Hursty Choosing to not have children, I haven’t taken a flight anywhere in over five years, the house is insulated to within an inch of it’s life, I eat organic when I can / it makes sense, I try and buy ethical clothing, but it’s a nightmare, and as such I try to just consume less, haven’t bought any trabs for a few good years now, I’m just wearing the collection I have.

Haven’t sorted an ethical bank yet, and haven’t gone all in on the solar panels, but that is because I’ve been looking to move house since before covid, and it just hasn’t happened for a bunch of different reasons.

RichM · 3 Jan

I try and buy as much clothes from ethical clothing brands as I can. It’s easy for t shirts, jumpers, hoodies and underwear. Not so much for everything else though.
The insulation thing surely everyone does as it’s just a way of keeping you home warmer for less money, regardless of any climate benefit?
I do try and consume less stuff, and more conscious on food I buy and its packaging. I always recycle everything (even though it prob all goes to landfill anyway, but at least I’ve tried)
I wouldn’t stop flying for the climate, but would get a train instead if it’s a) not massively overpriced b) not massively increasing travel time. So that kind of limits where I would use train over plane!

Amps · 3 Jan

RichM I wouldn’t stop flying for the climate

Your alright eh Jack!

Amps · 3 Jan

Live genocide:

RichM · 3 Jan

Amps I realise it is selfish. But try and do my bit elsewhere. Hopefully the airlines can improve things over time so they are not causing as much of a climate impact.

Amps · 3 Jan

RichM Hopefully the airlines can improve things over time so they are not causing

Are you hoping the Easter Bunny is real too!

OOld-Dutch · 3 Jan

Amps Haven’t sorted an ethical bank yet

Good luck with that one, lol

alistair · 3 Jan

Hursty · 3 Jan

Amps sounds like you are “going for it”, kudos to your attempts to minimise impact on the world, hopefully it helps reduce your climate anxiety so you can enjoy life as well!

OOld-Dutch · 3 Jan

More taxes reduce climate change

Amps · 3 Jan

Old-Dutch

Amps · 3 Jan

Old-Dutch Consumerism is the biggest driver. Circular economys needed.

Amps · 3 Jan

Hursty Climate anger rather than anxiety. Too many psychopaths in charge. Too many bootlickers happy to enable them.

Hursty · 3 Jan

Amps Do you see yourself staying in the UK or perhaps a more lower impact life in some other country?

Amps · 3 Jan

Hursty I’d like to move to Scotland, but it won’t be happening any time soon.

hugopal · 4 Jan

Amps Choosing to not have children, I haven’t taken a flight anywhere in over five years

If you’re not having kids then why do you even give a flying fuck what the climate will be like for future generations?!?!

Homegrove · 4 Jan

Imagine caring about the future of other people besides your own family you stupid fucking bastard.

Mad_Cyril · 4 Jan

Homegrove
LOL.

Good point, well made

hugopal · 4 Jan

Homegrove Imagine caring about the future of other people besides your own family you stupid fucking bastard.

If you think that having kids is a bad thing, then why would you support and care for the kids other people are having?

Because otherwise it’s like Amps saying that he doesn’t think it’s morally right that he should drive a gas-guzzling 4×4, yet he encourages other people to do so, applauds them when they do, and even buys them a nice air freshener and some new tires as a gift so they have a more pleasant journey.

RichM · 5 Jan

There is something that Hugo has said which sort of makes sense (I think). Amps has chosen not to have kids as a rationale for what he is doing to protect the planet. Yet based on his views of me flying and he doesn’t, must also suggest that anyone who has kids (ie opposite of what he is doing) aren’t making the right choices for our planet? Am I on the right path here?

But if we all do the same as Amps, as he clearly thinks he lives his life in a positive way to our planet / society, then we will be extinct within 100 odd years anyway