bosstrabs They used to be really good at this. The people themselves were dog shit, of course, but at least they gave their base the illusion of progress. Everything changed after the Obungler won. His burring the hatchet with the Clintons certainly contributed to the stagnation. The real set back was when he convinced everyone, except Liz Warren, to drop out and back Joe so that they could once again prevent Bernie from becoming the nominee.