C_J ‘so you lot move to Egypt for a few years while we make the place all nice and glossy for you, then we’ll let you back in with hugs and free goodie bags’ – that’s the plan right? Right?

I’m absolutely sure that the US has got designs for our country and people like Farage are greasing the wheels for them, Id be more than happy if we joined the EU again

  • erik replied to this.

    55% now say we were wrong to leave and only 30% say it was right (how fucking thick are they?). Why this isn’t a front and centre political discussion, I don’t know. More and more thickets that voted against are dead - millions of them.

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    Not everything trump will do will be negative LT, no matter how far you are on the opposition, it’s idiotic to think everything single thing will be negative. UK has an opportunity to make a deal and finally make use of brexit so why not try at least to sort something.

    303 stated let’s keep funding Ukraine to fight and sanction Russia, has that worked so far? Russia have over 5% would you really want to risk them taking more and more whilst losing more and more lives and destruction. The mineral deal will only really do something for USA economy after trumps terms anyway, they threw 350/400 billion at Ukraine and you be lucky to see a couple of billion a year out of those minerals once they get mining. It’s really isn’t that much to ask for security and peace keeping, plus as I stated before bush, nixon and Co took a lot and gained a lot in previous Wars, Trump will not see that 400b back ever really.

    Crimea was took without an eye lid batted, so what leader in the entire history is going to be able to persuade Russia to let go off that 5 percent. It’s a tricky situation and I’m yet to see anyone here bring up a solution that will work without more fighting more killing and Russia not making more in roads, it’s scary to think what they can do even will the Ukraine funding so where would they stop, diplomacy is needed now and peace imo. Blinkers off in a response is all I ask.

      Any deal made with Trump won’t be worth the paper it’s written on and will come with a bunch of concessions to the US too. Brexit benefit my hoopla.

        Funky is the type of sluggish placard holder who thinks Trump Steaks bombed only because of a leftist vegetarian campaign started by John Podesta in Shoreditch.

        VR46 UK has an opportunity to make a deal and finally make use of brexit so why not try at least to sort something.

        what kind of deal?

        LT42 Candle in the Wind playing over the wireless?

        It plays in my head every time I see our beautiful flag!

        VR46 UK has an opportunity to make a deal and finally make use of brexit so why not try at least to sort something.

        But that deal now has to be with a complete fruit cake who will just do the last thing that he was told. Were as we could be dealing with lesser grifters in Europe who are far more likely to stay the course.

        VR46 diplomacy is needed now and peace imo.

        I agree, but it shouldn’t be handled by a compromised POTUS / Russian agent. I agree that Europe have been lazy / toed the Biden line for the last three years, but they can negotiate a peace if they want to. If Trump is a true isolationist he should shut his hoop.

        Can’t help but think this is all Labour’s fault.

          Smallman1 Can’t help but think this is all Labour’s fault.

          If people like Amps and Corbyn hadn’t been at the forefront of the Labour movement, boring people senseless like some dusty trade union leaders from 1973, promising to consign everyone to a return to meagre rations of British pork and peas for dinner, and have everyone travel everywhere on nationalised buses, Cameron probably would have been ousted and we’d never have had this daft referendum.

          So, yes, Labour’s fault.

          • Amps replied to this.

            Lol, love ya work Dave!

            VR46 Not everything trump will do will be negative LT, no matter how far you are on the opposition, it’s idiotic to think everything single thing will be negative.

            Fair enough, Funky, but that requires you explaining for us just one thing he did positive since 2016 as President, and anything positive he ever did in his career before that. Nothing cosmetic either, something that most reasonable people could agree on. Back up your very strong words. For once.

              bosstrabs Woah woah woah! I was fully onboard the free STW for everyone bus, no rationing from the Amps camp thank you.

              LT42 something that most reasonable people could agree on.

              Trump Tower in NYC.

              Talk about case closed!

              Old-Dutch Sorry, maybe wasn’t the best sentence structure. The “and” starts a new clause with Trump being the subject after the comma separation. Putin started shit, Trump threw the Ukraine under the bus.

              VR46 303 stated let’s keep funding Ukraine to fight and sanction Russia, has that worked so far?

              Pretty fucking well, all things considered, from the American perspective. For a tiny fraction of their budget, they’ve helped the Ukraine defend against Russia for 3 years, shown how weak the Russian military is, and devastated the Russian economy. It’s also demonstrated to China that invading Taiwan maybe not the best idea and has held their geo-political influence.

              Trump’s pro-Russia intervention has undermined all of that and will only serve to strengthen the BRICS nations. This is the biggest shift in global power in 80 years.

              Maybe if you’re so concerned about the loss of life, you should direct your ire where it belongs. This is Putin’s doing, now with the support of the Americans.

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