General Football Nonsense

alistair

gcw Five midfielders out in one transfer window, three of which made a major contribution to our recent success. We haven’t got a hope in hell of competing for the title

RichM

alistair I think letting Henderson go is a bad move, as it’s too much change in one part of the field. The rest I’m fine with going, as we have 2 replacements. We now need a solid DM and a new right back if Klopp wants to use Trent more in midfield.

However I get why Henderson would go, he would be a bit part player in a team which is transitioning. If we had a decent midfield we would happily let him go, but the only reason we need him is because we have let so many other players go and our midfield is a mess. That’s not exactly great for him. I’m sure £700k a week has nothing to do with it…..

gcw

alistair agreed. But even with Henderson and Fabinho I dont think we had that much of a chance. If Thiago could just stay bloody fit……

Cankles-McJeggings

Lol. Why would you anyway? Youve only won it once in the last 33 years.

Hursty

Cankles-McJeggings well to be fair we missed out on 2 more titles by 1 point so we’ve been ‘in the mix’ one might say

Hursty

I’m trying to look for positives in all this Saudi business, perhaps one is that more homegrown youth talent get a chance to play at the highest level here in the UK?

Cankles-McJeggings

Hursty

Try thinking a bit more about the gays 👎🌈

Wally

Cankles-McJeggings TBF to ASM he doesn’t want to go. FFP is forcing the sale (rumours are flogging him for a decent price will allow four more transfers to be made - no, no idea how that works). I know you can’t be nostalgic about these things and it was under the previous owner / manager but he really was the reason we didn’t get relegated for two seasons. It’s a shocker that he’s not going to be around for the CL this season. The 20m price tag being thrown around is hopefully complete bullshit too. That’s pocket change for him.

Mad_Cyril

Wally FFP is forcing the sale (rumours are flogging him for a decent price will allow four more transfers to be made - no, no idea how that works).

Income vs Expenditure on paper. In reality likely cooking the books.

You spend £5 on ASM and sell him for £50 so you’re £45 up.

What’s hard to tell is when these fees are real or inflated to allow clubs finances to be better positioned.

Not accusing Newcastle here but there’s some examples of the practice in this article with, ‘surprisingly’, some of the Italian teams. An interesting read

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/apr/25/inside-the-crisis-at-juventus-andrea-agnelli-fabio-paratici-plusvalenze?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Wally

Mad_Cyril We bought him for 20m back in the day and are selling him for 20m + ‘bonuses’ (I get that could mean anything). There’s no doubt some book cooking going on - same as every club really so I guess if it opens the door to more players it’s a benefit in the end and ASM out and Harvey Barnes in is probs an upgrade in all fairness. Still sad to see him go. We’ve got some dross on our team that we defo need to shift but no one’s going to take ( Jamal Lewis for one )

Mad_Cyril

Wally We’ve got some dross on our team that we defo need to shift but no one’s going to take ( Jamal Lewis for one )

Tell me about it. All our deadwood have fantastic contracts as well - nobody can afford their wages and nobody wants to leave.

Will raise your Jamal Lewis with Eric Bailly, be surprised if any non-United fans can remember who he is!

vinnyt77

Mad_Cyril Eric Bailly

Contracted for another 2 full seasons 😆

Mad_Cyril

vinnyt77
Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s allowed to activate his own extension (and not the only one)!!

Jules72

Hursty Its incredible how much this transfer window is going to change the landscape forever

Personally think this is just a temporary burst of spending by the Saudis in an attempt to kickstart their league ahead of their WC bid… footballers are always going to demand huge salaries to play there because it’s such a shitty place to live and the Saudis are not going to be spending all their resources on football ad-infinitum… could last up to a few seasons though

Mad_Cyril

Jules72
There is a potential it inflates the market and bends the FFP principles though.

Examples

Koulibaly - undisclosed fee, rumoured to be £20m, estimated value (transfer markt) €15m

Neves - £47m, estimated value (transfer markt) €40m

Factor in the exchange and there’s a decent discrepancy. Then add on the fact that all players are amortised assets and the gap between income & expenditure grows.

Both look great deals, from a FFP perspective (new rules) Chelsea needed to sell a LOT and Wolves were practically broke.

Cankles-McJeggings

They’ll all be retired by then.

Jules72

Mad_Cyril for sure - I don’t doubt it inflates the market, but I think it’s temporary… until Saudi decides it has thrown enough at footballers. Saudi probably has a trillion USD in savings at its disposal but much of that will be for the time when their energy reserves run dry and developing substitute industries

hugopal

Mad_Cyril estimated value (transfer markt)

Transfermarkt’s estimated player values are complete and utter bollocks.

SM001

Mad_Cyril Pretty sure that’s only a club option. But I still wouldn’t be surprised. They brought back Johnny Evans ffs! 😅

Mad_Cyril

SM001 Pretty sure that’s only a club option.

In some other cases it isn’t. A gift from the Woodward years.

Specific to Bailly I don’t know.

Mad_Cyril

Jules72
We are now ‘preparing a bid’ for Hojland. Another flurry of beige updates beckons 😴

Jules72

Mad_Cyril bargain at 70m

Dan

Worth watching just for the commentator.

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