The General Covid19 Thread

LT42

Jules72 Not working across the board for trial subjects, making some very sick, side effects etc. Hotez reckons even if one came next Summer it would be way too fast to roll out, a world record actually. We still don’t know enough about it and scientists are still disagreeing on certain aspects. The pressure to roll one out is immense and unfortunately profit margins are being put before safety.

Jules72

LT42 admittedly never heard of the guy - will take a look… I was only aware of the one person falling ill in the Oxford trial

LT42

Jules72 He’s talking specifically about trials done in the US also, I’m not aware of any details with Euro labs but there has to be similar outcomes as that’s how trials go. I’d just be wary of any company who says they have the answer given the time frames involved. Herd Immunity might increase, that’s a positive anyway.

Smallman1

Count me in for the vaccine.

And see you on the d-floor lads!

Millsy

Do you want to know what my vaccine is?

Minerals.

Jules72

So Ireland has 3 deaths on average per week most recently, but has implemented a 6 week lockdown…. complete overreaction imo

LT42

Jules72 It’s to do with the ICU and general hospital capacity, Jules. The healthcare system has been neglected for years and now they’re paying the price. We’ve been at 1k cases a day for at least a week now.

303abuser

LT42 i’m all for vaccines, but there’s no way i’ll be first in line for public beta testing. forget long term impacts, they’re going to rush this so badly that they won’t even know the short term consequences.

LT42

303abuser Yeah that’s it, it’s too early to be diving in for me. Defo going to wait. Remains to be seen how it will work aswell in terms of “ledging it at the coalface”, are you going to have a barcode stamped on your neck to say you’ve had it? That whole era is yet to be known and judging by how things are being run now I can see it being another massive clusterfuck.

Smallman1

If the short term consequence is I can get back to ledging it at the coalface, then I’m all in 303.

303abuser

Smallman1 hopefully that’s the only consequence. i’d be all over it if i knew that for sure.

bosstrabs

LT42 are you going to have a barcode stamped on your neck

We will have. Smallman’s neck’s so long he can have his entire medical records printed there though.

303abuser

LT42 yeah the next couple of years are going to be interesting. i’m honestly wondering when everyone figures out that the vulnerable are staying home and everyone else is going back to normal with some risk acceptance, vaccine or not.

alistair

Brilliant

Jules72

alistair can’t argue with her - if you have perhaps a few years left, isolating for six to nine months takes a big chunk out of your remaining existence.

SM001

alistair Hilarious stuff until she gets infected and dies alone in a hospital bed.

303abuser

SM001 or more likely she doesn’t die and is just fine.*

*not saying she’s necessarily doing the right thing, but i understand it and she’s not wrong

SM001

303abuser It’s her choice obviously. She can adhere to the guidelines/restrictions for her own safety and the safety of others or she can be selfish and irresponsible and not adhere to the guidelines/restrictions.

303abuser

SM001 is it that simple though? or should she be allowed to assess her own risk levels? she specifically said that we should be assisting the vulnerable and either doesn’t see herself in that category or doesn’t care. if the vulnerable are staying home, who is she impacting other than herself and others making the same choice?

i don’t have the answers, just asking questions because i don’t think it’s a completely unreasonable stance.

C_J

SM001 It’s her choice obviously. She can adhere to the guidelines/restrictions for her own safety and the safety of others or she can be selfish and irresponsible and not adhere to the guidelines/restrictions.

@bosstrabs

SM001

303abuser Yes it is that simple. If all the vulnerable stay at home (which is a small percentage of the population) and the rest just go about doing what we like and ignore the guidelines/restrictions how the hell is this virus ever going to go away?
Most people are vulnerable in some way. My Father recently had a brain biopsy and was vulnerable. I had to go see him to help care for him while he recovered. At any point I could have contracted Covid. All it takes is one infected person not wearing a mask in my local supermarket, who infects me and I turn infect my father and/or someone else.

303abuser

SM001 why do you think the virus is going away? genuine question.

in your given scenario, one person not wearing a mask is extremely unlikely to transmit the virus to you unless you’re in close contact for an extended period of time. if the risk is that high, do curbside pick up.

i’m saying this as a person in a very low risk group, who doesn’t go out in public often, wears a mask, and follows social distancing guidelines. i’m not one of the hoax people or anything like that, but i also think the response from our collective governments has been misguided and more political than science-based.

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