The General Covid19 Thread

Smallman1

zackster dude my Trump thread is going to generate a page algorithm all by itself. Bloody masterclass that.

I gave up when it became a one page diatribe of relentless righteousness.

Pages would have given it more nuance, structure and flow.

303abuser

Smallman1 i honestly worry about your ability to function in the post-covid world lol.

LT42

C_J it’s just a question of people wanting the “right” things at the end of the day.

That’s nothing to do with Capitalism though is it? Maybe I’m wrong. This batch of Kahlua has me sitting on the balcony in my underpants.

303abuser

LT42 bernie getting intentionally derailed again is all you need to know about how badly the power structure doesn’t want change. they just won’t let it happen without a violent revolution that forces it and i don’t see that happening either. ubi is a great idea, just needs to be worked out through a few trials to see what the best approach is. especially with automation becoming an ever-present reality, we’re going to need creative solutions.

303abuser

C_J while i agree in theory, but take the example where food, especially in the states, in priced according to how healthy it its. people may very well want to support hormone/antibiotic-free, free-range meat sources and farmers who produce organic vegetables, but if a whopper is 1/3rd the price and wages are low, it’s really not a choice.

Smallman1

The last few posts prove my point about a lack of pages.

I’ve got no idea about what the context is and I don’t want have to scroll to the very beginning of the thread to get the context.

Nothing personal, just using it as an illustration about how easy it is to become disengaged about important threads.

Along_the_Wire

Smallman1 Turn it in Ed. Everyone else is good with it. I don’t know how, but you must be doing something wrong.

I hope your business transformation schtick is a lot better.

303abuser

that’s why i use the direct reply button all the time, it helps as you can scroll over it to see the original post. it’s really not that big a deal.

zackster

Ed’s multi thread page protest is admirable. This is his version of Minneapolis.

bosstrabs

Hope Ed gets a knee to the Gregory too

C_J

Too soon Dave

#BLM

-si-

So we get rid of a capitalist society and replace it with what exactly?

zackster

-si- the social democracies of the nordic countries seem to function quite well.

bosstrabs

zackster They are, as Homegrove points out, highly regulated capitalist economies.

Only a Yank (not you, I mean the frothing-at-the-mouth Trump supporter type) could see them as actually socialist.

Homegrove

And we are highly taxed and regulated capitalist systems. I say we should pay even more taxes.

Millsy

I was going to give Ed’s lot a big Biz Trans contract, but observing his lack of base minerals at the slightest and most basic changes, I’m having second thoughts.

Smallman1

Get the contract over Millsy and we’ll transform your organisation!

C_J

I don’t think the Nordic countries are well functioning because they are highly taxed and regulated. It’s a little bit more complicated than simply “more tax=more happy”. To some extent the high taxes are possible because of the well functioning society and not the other way around.

The distinguishing feature of these societies seems to be a strong sense of community participation/ responsibility and a strong social contract, with transparent and accountable government.

Finland is definitely doing some really interesting things but I don’t know how much of this is applicable only in small, relatively isolated and closed communities like Iceland and Finland as opposed to big international metropolises.

Homegrove

That’s some balls explaining Finland to me. The biggest reason we have everything so swell is we developed highly functioning education and healthcare, and social safety nets that are free for all in the sixties and seventies. With tax money.

-si-

Homegrove

Think he’s just making sure your fixation with the yanks doesn’t mean you haven’t a scooby what’s going on where it actually matters, ie. where you live, mate!

zackster

Homegrove lol I totally agree with you, however I do seem to recall you explaining the American political landscape to me on one or two occasions 🤗.

C_J

Obviously I’m not explaining Finland to you. I‘ve spent one day in Finland and I don’t really know much about it.

I will say one thing about the Finns, they are nice enough but can come across as quite strange. And I don’t get why a lot of the men have like really croaky voices, what the hell is that about?

Homegrove

C_J not used to speaking.

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