whatever Thanks for taking the time to explain that.

    303abuser I know nothing about him other than the Fridman podcast, seems like an interesting fellow, what’s the story with him?

        LT42 long story short, he’s a quack who’s more interested in playing the victim role than anything else. i’m pretty sure he’s joe rogan’s main source for all the nonsense he believes about covid, that’s about all i need to know about him.

        • LT42 replied to this.

            Who is this Joe Rogan character? Where did he come from? I just watched the podcast and most of it comes across as quackery.

              mono-stereo his podcast was good pre-covid. he had a wide variety of guests and he’d let them talk. since covid, he’s become absolutely insufferable, while spreading a lot of misinformation. somewhere along the way he’s transitioned from being inquisitive to an “expert” who needs to interject his own ignorant opinions over top of guests who are actual experts.

                  303abuser
                  Unfortunately, there’s plenty of enlightenment-signalling podberks out there who think they’re smart because they repeat, ad nauseam, the ramblings of such folk like rogan and pas it off as their own independent ‘thinking’.

                  Communicating ideas is dangerous and should be restricted to a select few 😂

                      Dubman
                      They’re all in each other’s aren’t they?

                      Some are decent, some are shite.

                          Dubman
                          That’s not important Dubbers, their only quest is the truth

                            Mad_Cyril Communicating ideas is dangerous and should be restricted to a select few 😂

                            you’re almost not wrong. i’m all for discourse, but sweet jesus most people are really dumb.

                              I’ve been loling thinking about this tweet for days

                              alistair Have to prove my Covid status for Bicep next weekend

                              COVID STATUS: Denial with a side order of conspiracy theory

                                mono-stereo Never listened to him, not once, also literally no idea why he’s so ‘big’ but that’s the Internet I suppose.

                                  303abuser I did some reading on Ivermectin and what he says checks out. Not that I’ll be downing it in any time soon but its not “Horse paste” which seems to be the latest nomenclature. Strange times. Some craic if it was the cure and social media killed off the idea because of Joe Rogan.

                                      I’ve got no idea whether Ivermectin should or shouldn’t be used against Covid, but much of the scepticism and ridicule around it that I’ve seen appears to relate to the fact that it’s commonly used on horses - well I’m just going to point out that a certain tranquiliser commonly used on horses is also quite popular with humans, so it doesn’t seem worthy of immediate dismissal on that front at least.

                                      • LT42 replied to this.

                                        I think the fact that lunatic anti-vaxxers back the thing is considerably more of an issue that whether it’s made for horses or not

                                          A disinformation campaign against a cheap, generic drug waged by certain interested parties who likely stand to make huge profits from Big Pharma’s vaccines?

                                          I would be genuinely surprised if such a thing was happening.

                                            bosstrabs A disinformation campaign against a cheap, generic drug waged by certain interested parties who likely stand to make huge profits from Big Pharma’s vaccines?

                                            Certainly worked wonders discrediting AZ

                                              Along_the_Wire I’m just pointing out that it could be a cheap tactic to discredit it, which ultimately has no relevance as to whether it’s actually useful or not.

                                              Likewise citing that it’s backed by “lunatic anti-vaxxers” could be a lazy attempt to discredit by association, which again has no actual bearing on its potential efficacy.

                                              Again, I genuinely don’t feel informed enough to weigh in on whether it may or may not be beneficial, but I’m just noting some snide deflection which doesn’t contribute anything to the relevant debate.

                                                  hugopal appears to relate to the fact that it’s commonly used on horses

                                                  I think this will be a surprise to most but it’s actually most commonly used on humans with great success (Africa mostly). Which is why the online branding of it as a drug for horses only seems a little cynical to me and suggests a smear campaign. I wonder why?
                                                  I’ve bought bangers off shady bastards in dark corners of clubs for many a year, passing said bangers onto friends who danced, skipped and whistled whilst necking them without so much as a by your leave. I’d defo sample this stuff if push came to shove. I’m not on board with the current withchunt. Perception is key. I do agree that Rogan is a fuckin douchebag however. I only watched the podcast for the guests, which I’m sure 99% of viewers did anyway.

                                                    hugopal I’m just noting some snide deflection which doesn’t contribute anything

                                                    No snide. Anti-vaxxers are pushing for full tests and big pharma has form of something gets in their way ie AZ

                                                      Committed to the cause to the last. Last words were literally Make America Great Again.

                                                      One less fucking idiot.

                                                      LT42 there’s really weak evidence to indicate it may help with shortening duration of symptoms post-infection for some people, but there is absolutely no evidence for prophylactic use.

                                                          303abuser

                                                          What people don’t seem to understand (because they’re stupid) is that there is Ivermectin for human use but over this way it is prescription only. Consuming the over the counter medications for horses and cows is so beyond idiotic I’ve already wasted too many words. Could the approved-for-human use help with Covid? Doubtful but I suppose in some people it could help for some odd reason. The animal version? You’re likely to end up in a far worse place than if you just rolled with Covid. It sure as fuck won’t work as a preventative measure.

                                                              jonattonyeah absolutely. that was my way of saying as nicely as possible that these people are definitely the same group as anti vaxers.

                                                                zackster

                                                                GlaxoSmithKline are my favorite. Their selling strategy is to pair an MD who generally knows what they’re talking about with an absolute thunderbabe for the sell. They’re barred from working directly with us as a gov’t department but they do trainings (with a nice catered lunch) for our community partners. I go sometimes - for the free lunch and to see what 24 year old fox they have peddling their wares. It’s never dull.