The General Covid19 Thread

Old-Dutch

They are absolute cunts, Jules. But we know this already

Smallman1

Old-Dutch They are absolute cunts, Jules. But we know this already

Lol!

Jules72

Old-Dutch haha fair

alistair

Jules72 let’s be honest, they are very low risk but it’s the flagrant disregard they show for others which infuriates (whilst they are allowed to travel anywhere they want)

Jules72

alistair yeah… though the government is only allowing quarantine free travel for vaccinated footballers? Guess though with the red list being cut drastically that will change

alistair

Jules72 But they don’t. For example, Man City will have unvaccinated footballers and they didn’t have to quarantine when they came back from PSG. Look at the travelling England squad or any others for that matter

Jules72

alistair think it’s the red list countries only you need to quarantine after visiting if a footballer…

Homegrove

They can probably circumvent the quarantine by taking covid-tests every few days?

Along_the_Wire

You need the proof of vaccination to enter France as well as a negative covid test.

bosstrabs

Absolute fucking hysteria on this board.

Negative test should be sufficient.

If you’ve had Covid, your antibodies are already better than the vaccination.

They have the right idea here - strict quarantine and zero Covid rather than forcing every cunt to get vaccinated with their not insignificant (for some) side effects.

*I am double-jabbed AZ before anyone starts.

Hursty

bosstrabs I asked this the other day, what is the average length of time before you either need a vaccine booster or catch covid to top up said antibodies? Is there any decent data on this yet

mono-stereo

bosstrabs BOOSTER REFUSENIK

303abuser

bosstrabs Negative test should be sufficient.

the high rate of false negatives with rapid tests would indicate otherwise. this idea that that a negative test within 72 hours is equivalent to being vaccinated is ridiculous.

bosstrabs

Grant ABSOLUTELY RAGIN as per.

FEWMIN.

Along_the_Wire

bosstrabs I’m not raging at at all, I’m just stating fact. How can a footballer from Man City get into France without being fully vaccinated?

jonattonyeah

Hursty

Our policy is currently 8 months post-second jab for a booster but you all in the UK did it very different than us. We did the second jab two weeks after the first whereas the UK had months in between. Don’t have an opinion on what’s better/ideal.

bosstrabs

mono-stereo I will have a booster over here.

Makes it much easier to come and go, although there is no talk of being able to skip the minimum 14 day quarantine yet.

*By the way, I did 35 days - 21 in Shanghai (hotel), then 14 on return to Beijing (in my apartment) as I’d been through a medium-risk district of Shanghai.

bosstrabs

303abuser the high rate of false negatives with rapid tests would indicate otherwise. this idea that that a negative test within 72 hours is equivalent to being vaccinated is ridiculous.

As stated, they seem to have it sorted here in China. Maybe the rapid tests the UK uses are dogshit?

Negative test is preferable to vaccinated. Because if you’re vaccinated you can still test positive and spread the Miley. Positive test and off to strict quarantine with you (and possibly your close contacts). End of fucking story. None of this ‘trusting people’ to self-isolate.

jonattonyeah

303abuser

They’re not so bad. The BinaxNOW antigen tests have been quite reliable. Particularly for those symptomatic. It’s an inexpensive (<$25) and quick option when PCR tests are taking so long. Keep in mind we do not count rapid antigen tests in our case counts. If you’re rapid positive, you need a confirmatory PCR. This has led to gaps in cases as people who don’t have insurance (#MERICA) or are service avoidant (often undocumented) don’t get counted as they never get a PCR. That’s honestly on us, IMO, as a health department. Our messaging hasn’t been great and we’ve often caused more confusion than anything. ANYWAY that was a ramble….point is the rapid antigen tests are pretty good for the most part.

303abuser

bosstrabs i’m not sure what’s causing the false negatives (test quality, human error?), but it’s true in canada as well. and a negative test 72 hours out only measures a single point in time, even if it’s perfectly accurate. i’m all for both vaccines and tests together, but they’re not equivalent when it comes to efficacy. get everyone vaccinated, boosters as necessary, and move on with life.

Along_the_Wire

bosstrabs Negative test is preferable to vaccinated. Because if you’re vaccinated you can still test positive and spread the Miley.

Most countries require both

bosstrabs

And I’ve done ‘central quarantine’ (as it’s called) here, my first 14 days. It’s not bad. Just a nasal swab every few days and temperature check twice a day from someone in a hazmat suit. And you’ll pay 6300 rumbas for the privilege.

segwin

Looking forward to this thread’s retirement early next year.

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