The General Covid19 Thread

LT42

I have to be honest, once I get home I’m just hoping I bump into one of these hoaxers in Aldı who gives me lip about wearing a mask. That’s all I want this year. I’m beyond giving out about selfish people or idiots who got an education off Facebook. Zero tolerance.

Smallman1

Some cunt in Tesco earlier breezing in, buying a pint of milk and then breezing out without a mask and with more than a hint of arrogance.

Hope he has a massive coronary later.

seanc80

LOL. Just Smallman giving out about the ignorance & selfishness of others..

bosstrabs

Every time you think ‘hmm, Smallman is a bresh of fresh air, and because of that we should cut him some slack for his mental deficiencies and lack of self-awareness’, he posts something that makes you want to hit him with a spade again.

Smallman1

bosstrabs Every time you think ‘hmm, Smallman is a bresh of fresh air, and because of that we should cut him some slack for his mental deficiencies and lack of self-awareness’, he posts something that makes you want to hit him with a spade again.

Lol, a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma is me Dave!

Millsy

I haven’t set foot on a train since March and don’t plan to until covid is in the rear view mirror. Not even a brace of lukewarm pint cans of Stella and a katsu curry from Wasabi will tempt me back. Its that fucking serious lads.

Smallman1

Millsy I haven’t set foot on a train since March and don’t plan to until covid is in the rear view mirror. Not even a brace of lukewarm pint cans of Stella and a katsu curry from Wasabi will tempt me back. Its that fucking serious lads.

Hang tough brother!

Dubman

There’s a few people on a trade forum I belong to who actively boast about not wearing masks and bang on herd immunity and the virus only kills the elderly and people with health problems. I have to ignore what they post these days otherwise I’d get banned for causing trouble.

C_J

Jules72 so these are delay tactics - trying to keep the death toll down till then.

Not trying to be funny mate, but what death toll? According to the ONS deaths are currently at the five year average.

Maybe I’m being thick here but I can’t work out what death toll you are referring to. Either you think the ONS are wrong, are lying, or you have an alternative source of death stats?

Jules72

C_J well we are already at 200 plus deaths a day in the daily numbers… wouldn’t be a great stretch of the imagination to see 300-400 vs 1000 at the peak in March/April

C_J

Jules72 but do we not all agree the relevant statistic here is excess deaths?

People are dying with Covid. That’s not the same thing as dying of it. Most cases are asymptotic and people literally don’t know they have it - this is why it spreads so easily. It’s contagious without presenting symptoms.

According to the ONS there are zero excess deaths currently. The link is in my post. If that’s not objective reality I don’t know what is.

LT42

It’s like there’s no objective reality anymore. One person says we have deaths, someone else says we don’t. That guy says we need to wear masks, the other will show you a video of some univ professor saying masks are pointless. It’s like the recent racism wave washing over the US with people arguing that it’s white people who were the real victims of racism.

Everyone at each others necks. It all feels like a giant social experiment. Just wear a fucking mask and forget about fucking stats and “what you heard”. That’s my mantra going forward.

Mad_Cyril

LT42 Social media is to society what Paul Pogba is to the once mighty Reds

Jules72

Along_the_Wire never been but I got this email from Caprice yesterday… unreal

Jules72

seanc80 it’s mainly young blokes,
English and immigrants… builder and uneducated types… there really is no excuse anymore and it’s amazing anyone is still discussing this.

Still, distancing is the key… you are highly unlikely to get it if some positive idiot without a mask sits next to you for a minute… 15 mins is supposedly the threshold… so if it happens, you move seat… problem solved (assuming ventilation is fine). Anyway, personally I think to myself these days that if I get a small dose of it (from very short exposure) then no great shakes.. not going to actively go out and seek it but if it happens it’s not going to be a death sentence.

Jules72

C_J when was the last data point for the excess deaths? I mean the covid death stats have only just picked up to 200+

vinnyt77

C_J According to the ONS there are zero excess deaths currently. The link is in my post. If that’s not objective reality I don’t know what is.

I’m literally just off a call with the ONS about some work my company’s doing with them. I wouldn’t trust the ONS to count the number of shits they had in a day, let alone the complexity of calculating death rates from COVID.

C_J

Jules72 Oct 9th

C_J

vinnyt77 they ain’t calculating shit mate. They is just counting registered deaths innit.

DPM

vinnyt77 that is very amusing!!! Fair play for that…

Jules72

C_J ok so the ONS data was for the weekend ending 9 October… the daily covid data was averaging 59 deaths daily during that week vs 143 the last week and trending sharply up…. so the ONS data is outdated for a start

C_J

So if the next set of figures also show zero excess deaths, will that affect your thinking at all?

Jules72

C_J you’re basically saying the daily death data is bollox…. that is a pretty extreme conclusion

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