The General Covid19 Thread

Mad_Cyril

David Icke has got it all sussed, enlighten yourselves…

https://londonreal.tv/guest/david-icke/

Along_the_Wire

Mad_Cyril Some looney fucking website that.

Mad_Cyril

Along_the_Wire As good a case as I’ve seen for turning the Internet off

Homegrove

Not a single new case in Finland yesterday.

jonattonyeah

Florida, Texas, Arizona. Utter shambles. Two weeks ago had a positivity rate of around 3-3.5% (never realistic). Now around 14%. Anything about 8% is a serious problem for the level of testing. They are at a level of public health catastrophe. Destroyed the economy, and for what? Just to do the exact thing the shuttering was supposed to avoid. A complete embarrassment. Mexico might want to build that wall after all.

California’s going through a surge, but predictably it’s in Confederate California - San Bernadino, Kern, Riverside. 7 counties ordered shuttered, another 8 put on watch. San Francisco, Alameda, and San Mateo (our three neighbours) currently in the clear. Positivity rate around 5%, might bump to 6% tomorrow with weekend results. But we’re good.

LT42

LA closed all bars again, 2 weeks after re-opening. Florida will have to do the same. The zombies need to stay home, it’s as simple as that.

Homegrove

The last part is still a theory though.

rhouses

Homegrove I don’t want to go all Hugo Pal on here, but I do find it funny that every single lefty kept their mouth shut about social distancing during all the BLM protests over the last month.

Now CNN and the likes are peddling some nonsense stats about how it had no effect on the covid rates. Hard to believe.

This forward has been doing the rounds, seems pretty useful and maybe helps you worry about the right things:

The US government’s Centre for Disease Control (CDC) has made official the emerging scientific evidence on Coronavirus transmission:

Very low risk of transmission from surfaces.
Very low risk from outdoor activities.
Very HIGH risk from gatherings in enclosed spaces like offices, religious places, cinema halls, gyms or theatres.

These findings that have been emerging for a while need to be applied by people to manage the situation in the best possible manner. Time to reduce panic about surface transmission, and not be too eager to go back to office.

LINK:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/

LATEST FROM CDC, USA

Q - Who is expected to catch CORONAVIRUS?
Q - What does it take to infect?

TO SUCCESSFULLY INFECT A PERSON, THE VIRUS NEEDS A DOSE OF ₁₀₀₀ VIRAL PARTICLES (vp)

The typical environmental spread of activities:
😷 Breath: ₂₀ vp/minute
😷 Speaking: ₂₀₀ vp/minute
😷 Cough: ₂₀₀ million vp (enough of these may remain in air for hours in a poorly ventilated environment)
😷 Sneeze: ₂₀₀ million vp

FORMULA
SUCCESSFUL INFECTION = (Exposure to Virus x Time)

SCENARIOS

Being in vicinity of someone (with 6 ft distancing): Low risk if limit to less than 45 minutes
Talking to someone face to face (with mask): Low risk if limit to less than 4 minutes
Someone passing you by, like walking/jogging/cycling: Low risk
Well-ventilated spaces, with distancing: Low risk (limit duration)
Grocery shopping: Medium risk (can reduce to low by limiting time and following hygiene)
Indoor spaces: HIGH RISK
Public Bathrooms/Common areas: HIGH FOMITE/SURFACE TRANSFER RISK
Restaurants: HIGH RISK (can be reduced to medium risk by surface touch awareness)
Workplaces/Schools (even with social distancing): VERY HIGH RISK, including high fomite transfer risk
Parties/Weddings: VERY HIGH RISK
Business networking/conferences: VERY HIGH RISK
Arenas/Concerts/Cinemas: VERY HIGH RISK

RISK FACTORS
The bottom line factors you can use to calculate your risk are:

indoors vs outdoors
narrow spaces vs large, ventilated spaces
high people density vs low people density
longer exposure vs brief exposure

The risks will be higher for former scenarios.

STAY SAFE

rhouses

They’ve applied a mini lockdown to our apartment complex - no guests and you have to pick up the deliveries from the main gate. :/

303abuser

rhouses I do find it funny that every single lefty kept their mouth shut about social distancing during all the BLM protests over the last month

i think the evidence is in and looks conclusive (feel free to correct me if i have it wrong). there have been no spikes in hospitalization or deaths as a result of the protests, in the states or anywhere else.

Homegrove

At least at the protests almost everyone did and still do (they might have disappeared from the news but are still happening) wear a fucking mask.

Along_the_Wire

Derby and Nottingham better watch out when all the fucking thickets from Leicester bowl over for a few pints at the weekend.

bosstrabs

Along_the_Wire South Asians do their drinking from a whiskey bottle, behind closed doors.

Everyone knows that.

Jules72

If you look at all the anecdotes from countries like Korea, Singapore and Japan - ie where they have effective tracing systems - all the outbreaks have started in confined spaces…so what the CDC is saying on outdoor risk makes sense. Interesting on the low risk from surfaces though. Is the CDC completely politically neutral btw?

Im off back to the office in a couple of weeks, but everyone will be wearing masks and no one can even pass within two metres of anyone else. Pretty damn stringent!

Millsy

Unless I’ve missed it, has the UK gov done anything similar to the CDC? I don’t think I’ve ever seen any info about low to high risk scenarios. We’ve certainly fucked up the masks thing too. Should be compulsory in shared indoor spaces such as supermarkets and enforced with fines, but there’s no way they will do that as we don’t have a enough police who can be bothered. Shitshow.

Along_the_Wire

Millsy Fucking pisses me off.

bosstrabs

Millsy We have around 200 police officers per 100,000 people, which is very similar to Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, South Korea, Australia.

So, yes, if rules aren’t being enforced here it is fair to say that the police can’t be arsed, or the English are a frighteningly unruly mob.

-si-

Millsy

Plenty of cops around, millsy, they just don’t have the balls to enforce a lot of laws now for fear of being filmed on a mobile and labelled as an anti-one thing or other. The UK is fucked. America lite now.

Jules72

-si- personally think the lack of enforcement is down to the government being soft… Johnson is way too libertarian (or is it lazy?). You need a strong leader at times like this who is willing to upset a handful of people to achieve the best outcome.

Millsy

Thanks for the clarification lads

Homegrove

Anyone else notice Si has become Hugo-lite lately? Or have I just missed it before?

-si-

Homegrove

Eh? How do you work that out, hg?

Smallman1

Wish this Covid thing would just do one so I can get back to ledging it in nightclubs.

Millsy

Smallman1 you’ve got super spreader written all over you mate. Spraffing unintelligible mockney into randoms’ shell likes as they try and have a good night coupled with questionable personal hygiene = field day for the COVID.

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