DJs and Streaming music via Beatport LINK discussion

zackster is that the shame lizard?

hugopal jon made the mistake of reminding me that I used to be into MP, which lead to a night of me getting 3 sheets and playing his old records, which lead to me following on all forms of social media, which lead to All Night entering my IG timeline, which lead to it becoming part of my riffs package. Very organic.

Mad_Cyril Agreed, all feels a bit early 2000s somehow. Even when you get the page / artist / track you want, it’s not clear what you are getting or meant to be clicking on. Their designers have no concept of hierarchy or pertinence when it comes to layout.

Mad_Cyril Are you not just describing Beatport? Feels like the most easy to use of them all imo, and so far it’s all been purchases from me, not rental / stream etc.

zackster Its the best. Been trying to find that screen shot as a pic; I’d love to use it as an avatar, but so far no luck.

I honestly think it was my earlier attempt to upload that Picotto photo which caused the board to break - it happened the second I hit ‘post’ previously.

Amps
Beatport does 3 and 4 poorly.

To be fair, recommendations based on metadata will always be shite and robotic unless you are allowed to pick your own, eg. Genre, key, bpm range

Most just seem to be heavily artist or genre weighted. Juno pushes shitloads of Nu Disco at me for some reason I can’t fathom!

zackster
Zack. If you say MP is cool, that’s good enough for me

Mad_Cyril I admit I don’t know a huge amount about how they pay, but as they are outright purchases I figured they can’t be that bad, but I could be wrong.

As for recommendations, I agree about algorithms, but I think Beatport does a good job of filling the page space with lots of options such as charts, and what other purchasers also bought etc. I don’t feel like I have to go too far for similar inspiration.

Amps I admit I don’t know a huge amount about how they pay, but as they are outright purchases I figured they can’t be that bad, but I could be wrong.

i haven’s sold anything on beatport, so this is all speculation, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in. my understanding is that you have to be a label to submit to beatport. which means from an artist perspective, the cut of money from every sale goes first to beatport, then to the label, then you get whatever is left over after mastering, promo, and distribution cost. which is likely nothing.

303abuser you get whatever is left over after mastering, promo, and distribution cost. which is likely nothing.

Which is fucking criminal

Mad_Cyril
Spotify is another platform where the actual artist gets very little.

Mad_Cyril i have a good friend who makes trance and he’s been top 10 on the beatport charts at times and never made a penny. he uses it for promo to get dj gigs. the whole make music for promotion vs pay, clubs expecting djs to play for exposure, etc. needs to change. someone is making money, but it’s not the people doing all the work.

Dubman not sure if i’m typical, but my ration is $1 earned for every 34 hours of my music that is streamed. given each record takes 10-30 hours to produce, not including thousands in gear costs, that’s a bloody expensive hobby.

Maybe a JC project?

303abuser How difficult is it to start a record label that Beatport would recognise? Could you start your own and self publish through Beatport? What would you need? An email address, company reg and a logo?