DJs and Streaming music via Beatport LINK discussion

zackster Its the best. Been trying to find that screen shot as a pic; I’d love to use it as an avatar, but so far no luck.

I honestly think it was my earlier attempt to upload that Picotto photo which caused the board to break - it happened the second I hit ‘post’ previously.

Amps
Beatport does 3 and 4 poorly.

To be fair, recommendations based on metadata will always be shite and robotic unless you are allowed to pick your own, eg. Genre, key, bpm range

Most just seem to be heavily artist or genre weighted. Juno pushes shitloads of Nu Disco at me for some reason I can’t fathom!

zackster
Zack. If you say MP is cool, that’s good enough for me

Mad_Cyril I admit I don’t know a huge amount about how they pay, but as they are outright purchases I figured they can’t be that bad, but I could be wrong.

As for recommendations, I agree about algorithms, but I think Beatport does a good job of filling the page space with lots of options such as charts, and what other purchasers also bought etc. I don’t feel like I have to go too far for similar inspiration.

hugopal The board isn’t currently allowing avatar updates, but one it is….

Amps I admit I don’t know a huge amount about how they pay, but as they are outright purchases I figured they can’t be that bad, but I could be wrong.

i haven’s sold anything on beatport, so this is all speculation, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in. my understanding is that you have to be a label to submit to beatport. which means from an artist perspective, the cut of money from every sale goes first to beatport, then to the label, then you get whatever is left over after mastering, promo, and distribution cost. which is likely nothing.

303abuser you get whatever is left over after mastering, promo, and distribution cost. which is likely nothing.

Which is fucking criminal

Mad_Cyril
Spotify is another platform where the actual artist gets very little.

Mad_Cyril i have a good friend who makes trance and he’s been top 10 on the beatport charts at times and never made a penny. he uses it for promo to get dj gigs. the whole make music for promotion vs pay, clubs expecting djs to play for exposure, etc. needs to change. someone is making money, but it’s not the people doing all the work.

Maybe a JC project?

303abuser How difficult is it to start a record label that Beatport would recognise? Could you start your own and self publish through Beatport? What would you need? An email address, company reg and a logo?

Mad_Cyril You would need upwards of 80k to cover the development and design fees and thats before hosting and promotion, and assuming you can get your first iteration out the door in under a year.

I would also guess that whet the artist gets after an ‘online sale’ might be down to their contract, so even though you drop your fee, the label might just hoover up more of the cut and still give the artist fuck all???

Mad_Cyril I though they had some hoops to jump through once you where signed up, like, units shifted per month or something?

Amps
There’s cheaper ways to do im sure.

Was thinking a basic hosting / transaction processing model with a good UI.

Most of that can be set up as a service now.

Advertising could be done effectively and efficiently without subscribing to standard models.

Be good to break the norms

Amps
Was just talking about setting up a company.