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Amps not sure if this will exactly answer your question, so let me know if it doesn’t.

my workflow is to do initial sound design in session view, then once i have enough sounds that fit together to create the foundation for a track, i put together a skeleton arrangement (in arrangement view), and then do all future editing in arrangement unless i need a new sound. in that case, i go back to session view, create the new sound, paste it into the arrangement, rinse and repeat.

i’ve tried several different ways of arranging, but simple left to right chronological order works best for me. i find it easier to conceptualize the track and keep in moving toward the sound i’m looking for that way, plus it helps place fills/risers/transitions for me (as a side note, i usually create all my transitions by resampling existing sounds, i find everything sounds really glued together that way).

specific to your question, once you’ve edited it in arrangement, the clip in session view is essentially separate. i like that as it allows me to create a base, dry sound, then use arrangement view to add pattern variations, automation, etc.

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      Amps First question - play a clip in the session view and it will override what is ‘playing’ for that track in the arrangement view. If you toggle between the two the track in the arrangement view will be greyed out. Click on the orange icon in the top right to switch back to the ‘recorded’ arrangement view track.

      Second question - no the clips are separate. But you can create a further clip with in the session view with the now edited clip and move that to the session view. You can use '‘capture and insert scene’ in the create menu to do this in bulk to create a scene of clips from the arrangement view (a scene is a row of clips in the session view).

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          303abuser Cheers! That creation of a new instance for the Arrangement once I have edited feels really alien to me. If I make lots of changes in Arrangement and then go back to Session to make new sounds, how do I see how the sounds next to my latest versions in Arrangement??? Do I have to keep pasting them up into the Arrangement? I’m starting to wonder what the point of the two views is? May as well just have the Arrangement view?

              apyssjw First question - play a clip in the session view and it will override what is ‘playing’ for that track in the arrangement view. If you toggle between the two the track in the arrangement view will be greyed out. Click on the orange icon in the top right to switch back to the ‘recorded’ arrangement view track.

              Thanks, but not quite the issue I am having… my Arrangement is all drums at the beginning, no synths or anything; when I go back to the Session and hit play, it just plays my Arrangement from the start, rather than playing my session which has all the channels at the same time, drums, bass, synths etc. so I sit there in Session listening to just the drum part and then hear all the other bits come in exactly as they are in the Arrangement… it’s just playing back the Arrangement even when I’m in Session. Make sense???

                  Amps Stop everything in the master transport then play the scene in the session view, by pressing play on the relevant scene in the master channel column on the right hand side of the session view. This will play the session view clips and not what is recorded in the arrangement.

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                      Amps you can paste new session clips into arrangement right away or you can just play it “over top” of the arrangement session. do you know how to loop a section in arrangement view? what i do is loop the arrangement section, audition the session view clip on top, then copy and paste into arrangement.

                      after you play the session clip (see apyssjw’s advice above), you’ll have a red box with an arrow in the top right corner of the arrangement grid. when that’s lit up, it’s telling you that session view clips are playing along with arrangement clips. when you click it off, you only hear arrangement view clips.

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                          apyssjw by pressing play on the relevant scene in the master channel column on the right hand side of the session view.

                          Excellent stuff, this worked a treat.

                          The ‘master transport’ bit flew clean over my head. Can’t see a lot on it? Any explanation for a thicket like me?

                              Amps it’s just the play, stop, record etc buttons top middle in both views.

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                                  Amps my Arrangement is all drums at the beginning, no synths or anything;

                                  Do you want me to come on and shout “Feel my drums” over it?

                                      Amps you should prob get yourself one of these Amps, best not to try and run before you can walk:

                                          hugopal Not far off what I’m rocking to be fair. 👍️

                                            303abuser

                                            Still working on. These Vox gigs are harder than I thought. Should be sorted over the weeekend

                                                Mad_Cyril haha just send me a few dry takes, say whatever you want. copy some alan watts if you want to be profound. 🤣

                                                  apyssjw i feel like this one would sound really good on a big system. nice track, i think we need a mix where that acid line dominates the track. 😉