The Sopranos

bosstrabs

These things usually end up in a fairly straight head-to-head between The Sopranos and The Wire.

Absolutely love them both, but The Wire edges it for me, so you have something else utterly amazeballs © ED SMALLMAN to watch there, Si.

Unbroken1

bosstrabs …it does tend to come down to those two but its a weird comparison IMO. The Wire was always intended as a 5-act piece, and although it definitely has it’s slower moments (series!) but when you look back at the scope of it, the storytelling is immense, probably unsurpassed in its ambition.

Sopranos I have a special love for as I worked on the series promos for about 3 years and was totally immersed in it for so long…. incredible performances and lurches between pathos, humour and horror like little else. I’ll never forgive David Chase for trying to sell us that lazy ending as an ‘interpretive’ set piece though.

Anyone mention Boardwalk Empire yet?

bosstrabs

Unbroken1 Boardwalk Empire also good.

Narcos original seasons definitely worth watching too. Goes off the boil with Narcos: Mexico though.

Millsy

Enjoyed Boardwalk Empire.

Along_the_Wire

I couldn’t stand Kelly McDonald in it (no problems with her normally)

Unbroken1

Millsy …so many class peripheral characters, Eli, Chalky, Van Alden, one of my all-time faves.

Along_the_Wire …deffo know what you are saying, it was almost like she was briefed to be stiff, esp in her earlier episodes, she improved as it went on though

Millsy

Richard Harrow in Boardwalk was immense. As was Gyp Rosetti.

Millsy

Basically HBO changed the game. Brought movie quality scripting, acting and polish to TV.

wrongun

Unbroken1 With you on all of that ….. was it yet another one that suffered from having the rug pulled on it and so they tried to wrap it up all too quickly with the last series??

Unbroken1

wrongun … probably too quickly yeah, but it was the ending that was always intended I believe. To be fair, although I’d rather they’d had the space to do it the way the creators wanted, I didn’t mind the ending and didn’t feel FUCKING RIPPED-OFF LIKE AT THE END OF THE SOPRANOS!!

303abuser

Smallman1 does the last season not completely ruin the show? that and lost have to be viewed as potentially great shows that were completely destroyed by bad writing, no?

Smallman1

I’ve got no idea chief, was taking the piss.

303abuser

Smallman1 haha fair enough, i’ll show myself out.

jonattonyeah

Along_the_Wire the Shield was entertaining, but it was stupid.

LOL I don’t even know what this means. It was excellent for its time.

And it’s interesting how S.2 of The Wire has become so respected. It was not when it came out. Maybe it was just too different from S.1. I don’t know. But it’s amazing. Frank Sobotka was an incredible character. So well written and acted.

bosstrabs

jonattonyeah And it’s interesting how S.2 of The Wire has become so respected. It was not when it came out. Maybe it was just too different from S.1. I don’t know. But it’s amazing. Frank Sobotka was an incredible character. So well written and acted.

Yeah, I was bang into Seasons 1, 3 and 4 a few years ago. Then on a recent rewatch I started to like Season 2 a lot more, where I found it depressing and ponderous previously (compared to the street stuff and the brilliance Omar Little, Stringer Bell et al)

Along_the_Wire

jonattonyeah The Shield was unrealistic and silly, but a good watch nonetheless?

jonattonyeah

bosstrabs

It’s the season I’ve rewatched the most. It’s just really well done.

jonattonyeah

Along_the_Wire

Gotcha. That makes sense. It’s loosely based off of the Rampart scandal (the name of the show was originally going to be Rampart but the LAPD put the kibosh on that). Knowing that story might’ve made me enjoy the show more. The Rampart police division was out of their fucking minds. Robbing dealers. Framing people. One dude was even involved in a bank robbery. Also rumored that one officer killed Biggie which is why nobody has ever been caught. And people wonder why the police aren’t trusted.

bosstrabs

ENTOURAGE

Does anyone here watch that shit?

Awful TV for morons.

jonattonyeah

bosstrabs

Awful. Just terrible. Nice looking women but even they can’t save it. Right there with Big Bang Theory for the worst thing ever filmed.

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