Amps Yes. Gutless. Most of the excuses I saw were that the ref was so inconsistent, that he could easily penalise England, and let New Zealand win the game. Don’t buy that at all…

All this said, England were by far the poorer team for 68 minutes. An excellent finish, and a draw shouldn’t detract from their failings of the first 3/4s of the match.

    Amps Pathetic end to what was a great comeback. If I was an England fan i’d be FEWMIN’!

    vinnyt77 and let New Zealand win the game

    Would rather fail trying than not try. We had all the momentum, it was more than worth a shot.

      Thoroughly enjoyed Twickers on Saturday!

      15 days later

      Jones gone. Not sure about that to be honest.

        Amps I am. The results in the last few years haven’t been good enough

        Can’t have too many complaints Jones, time definitely up.

        Was hoping he’d stay till the World Cup!

        His numbers in general are boss, and the world cup is 9 months away, not sure about the timing.

          Amps England weren’t going anywhere under Jones. We’re currently a ¼ final team at best, which isn’t good enough, and I don’t think the team would have markedly improved under Jones in the next 9 months.

          New coach has the chance to improve things, change some of the mentality and philosophy. If it works out, great. If it doesn’t - so be it, he didn’t have enough time to completely overhaul things.

          • Amps replied to this.

            vinnyt77 I don’t think the team would have markedly improved under Jones in the next 9 months

            Maybe, maybe not, but I wonder if a consistent selection and a good showing in the 6 Nations might not have been a spring board to something.

            Anyway, here’s hoping Ford and the Vunipola brothers never get a game for England ever again.

            • Amps replied to this.

              Amps, what does your Twitter feed say about it?

              What’s the consensus?!

                16 days later

                Amps yeah also hope they speed up scrums SA and the likes constantly slowing the game down

                24 days later

                Amps Anyway, here’s hoping Ford and the Vunipola brothers never get a game for England ever again.

                Borthwick has dropped Billy Vunipola for the 6 Nations. Feels like a good start imo!