9/11 National Tragedy ?

Smallman1

‘That’ jacket.

#neverforget

Along_the_Wire

LT42 Radar doesn’t need a transponder to pick up a plane

LT42

Along_the_Wire Correct, it needs the transponder to identify it.

Along_the_Wire

LT42 Once they know the plane, which they did, they can track it with or without a transponder

LT42

Along_the_Wire Nope, ATC at Dulles could not identify the aircraft, when it got to DC airspace the transponder had already been off for 30 mins, hence why they thought it was a military jet ( the manouevres it was making, speed in descent etc). The airspace only got shutdown after the Pentagon was hit so there were still hundreds of aircraft in the air on the East Coast, including landing and takeoffs at Dulles. If I’m not mistaken there were several planes being tracked that were deemed suspect.

Along_the_Wire

ScottBailey From memory, planes need to fly low to the ground to land. Is it possible they used this so-called “landing manoeuvre” before using the the Pentagon as its first contact with the ground?

LT42

Along_the_Wire the same pilot who was reported to the FAA for not being able to fly a Cessna properly, flew a 757 like something out of Close Encounters of the Third Kind and then managed to line it up for a perfect landing at top speed? Jesus, Grant.

Mad_Cyril

Along_the_Wire From memory, planes need to fly low to the ground to land.

Was thinking that this afternoon!!

Along_the_Wire

LT42 There is no way that air traffic control could not track that plane transponder or no transponder.

LT42

Along_the_Wire they did track it, they couldnt identify it!!

Along_the_Wire

LT42 we’ve been here already - we probably only know a small part of their training

I’ll ask again, what do you think happened?

LT42

Along_the_Wire I think something other than a Boeing 757 flown by a deadbeat who couldn’t fly a Cessna properly, hit the Pentagon. The FBI have told us when they entered the States and how much training they had, they know their movements in the middle east, so are we saying they had secret training and pretended they couldn’t fly? Because thats a conspiracy theory.

Along_the_Wire

Having read more of the Wikipedia page on AA77, I’m pretty happy that it was a plane that crashed into the Pentagon.

Millsy

People in your age category normally love a good mystery, Grant.

Along_the_Wire

Millsy LOL, fuck off Millsy!

Mad_Cyril

Millsy
A LOL for Mimsy

Phil-McRackin

We need to ask John Nettles what he thinks

zackster

LOL!

Grant all tucked in for Ms Marple and The Case of The Missing Tail Number.

Along_the_Wire

LT42 there are many rabbit holes to dive down here, but whoever flew that plane could fly and they were quite happy killing themselves and everyone else on the plane. It’s certainly more likely that he learnt to fly a plane, or someone pretending to be him could fly the plane than it is a missile was fired at the Pentagon.

LT42

Along_the_Wire lets not forget a Boeing 757 can’t do what the plane tracked on radar did and that’s a fact that can’t be disputed. That’s the ultimate kicker for me. The rest is speculation based on the dubious evidence given, I’ll give you that.

jonattonyeah

LT42

Seems like you pick and choose what is accurate and what is not. The FBI’s account of flying experience and whatever the FAA says about radar tracking is accurate because it fits your narrative. All other accounts, like the Pentagon’s (the true one - where a fucking airplane slammed into it), is disregarded and deemed untrustworthy.

Again, what happened to all the people who died? Oh that’s right….they just didn’t exist. Absolute poppycock.

mono-stereo

LT42 lets not forget a Boeing 757 can’t do what the plane tracked on radar did and that’s a fact that can’t be disputed.

What did the plane tracked on rader do that a Boeing 757 can’t do?

LT42

jonattonyeah no not at all, J. I’ve looked at the radar data, it doesn’t fit the official narrative. The FBI told us the training they had and that also doesn’t fit with what these “pilots” did. I’ve already said planes hit the WTC but they had to have had help for the planes to hit the bullseye. If you ever meet a pilot of Boeing aircraft, ask them what they think, they’ll tell you the exact same thing.

Along_the_Wire

LT42 On Wikipedia it says they initially thought it was a jet plane - a Hercules was scrambled to follow it and it was witnessed to be a 757 or a 767 AA airplane by the captain. Who also witnessed it hit the Pentagon. There are also witnesses on the ground.

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