Disc 2s of Superior Quality
Post booster, this is what I am after
On the ball, Z. By the way, where does Sunil Sharpe stand on your ratings ladder?
Absolutely fantastic! My merch idea NEVER should have been scoffed at.
jonattonyeah lol! Would buy the T and/or mug when you get the Teespring store set up
jonattonyeah didnāt know Heston Blumenthal lived in Tooting!
ScottBailey thatās Jason Statham
Lol more like the six flags guy. Similar dance moves to Ed too.
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zackster Stef Mendasidis is currently carrying the Jeff Mills brand of techno/djing better than anyone else, imo. Outside of Jeff obvs.
I like Stef Mendesidisā stuff, but his fast, choppy/loopy/drummy style would definitely not be first thing which comes to mind when trying to recommend present day techno to someone who has an aversion to anything which might resemble āpots and pansā.
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Try these, all a bit different, but often leaning a bit more to the melodic side of techno and a bit more crisp, so Iām guessing with a slightly lower likelihood of triggering whatever it is you seem to have a problem with:
(despite my comment above in response to zack, Hadoneās set does happen to include a Stef Mendesidis track for 2 minutes though, ha)
(Courtesyās December 2019 Essential Mix is also worth checking out if you want to listen to something which is available on soundcloud and mixcloud, rather than only youtube)
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Donāt disagree. The problem is pots and pans is JC/Low T Progger speak for hats/rides/crashes and any other type of cymbal you can think of. As you correctly pointed out, the much lauded Blackwatch was actually a prime example of someone who banged one of the first nails into the prog coffin. Listen to any of that manās top tunes and you will find a producer with a massive cymbal aversion. Iāve said it countless times, but it is worth repeating that prog abandoning the Roland groove boxes was one of the worst decisions the producers made.
Also, those who cry about pots and pans can end up quite enjoying it in the right context. Stef plays a lot of the class Detroit latin fusion style of techno. Nothing like a few horns and vocals to soften the blow of a 909 crash. The only other way to take it is into the Perc style of techno, that actually seems to be the dominant strain at the moment, which the same Low T sufferers will call Ear Bleed. The stuff that the Possession Techno crew are championing if far different to the class Detroit sound, imo, and I see that going down ever worse around here. Shlomo Taapion is getting massively popular at the moment, for any who feel like dipping a toe. I would love to go out and listen to this kinda shit, but I personally would never play it or try to produce it.
Anyone wanting something that has all of the above should check out Hecktor Oaks. He is one of my indisputable favorites at the moment, and completely on form right now.
Big fan of Hadone.
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zackster The only other way to take it is into the Perc style of techno, that actually seems to be the dominant strain at the moment, which the same Low T sufferers will call Ear Bleed.
Incorrect that itās āthe only other way to take itā - as per the DJs I posted above who lean more to the driving/melodic/trance-y side. Nina Kraviz and the whole Danish/Scandi crews, have been big drivers of this, but the style has been jumped on by loads of different scenes recently.
For sure though the industrial Perc-style is certainly the last thing Iād suggest to someone with LT42ās proclaimed issue.
Another direction is the more acid-heavy, slightly old-school rave style - Charlotte De Witte, Ki/Ki, Amelie Lens, Regal etc. all lean a fair bit into it. Alignment, who I posted above, does have some aspects of it, but straddles the rave side with a bit more of the Scandi/melodic type stuff.
Iād also disagree with what is āthe dominant strainā at the moment: the leading proponents of all the strains Iāve mentioned above seem to be doing very well right now and sharing headline slots along with the more industrial stuff. The only thing which is certain is that the loopy, neurotic, drum-focused, Jeff Mills Detroit style is definitely not the dominant strain right now.
zackster Shlomo Taapion is getting massively popular at the moment, for any who feel like dipping a toe.
Hadone, whose set I posted above, is mates with Shlomo and releases on his label - the final track on Hadoneās mix above, which for me is probably the tune of the year so far, has just been released on it.
See I consider all of those guys to be of the Perc school. They are melodic where he is industrial, but they all follow the more euro style of techno, ie crisp and clean production with hardstyle gabber elements. Nina is all over the place, which I love about her, and I would say CDW is just a very commercialized version of the others. Canāt stand her. As far as someone who bridges the gap, Iād say Dax J is a guy who falls in between a Hadone and Perc.
zackster Anyone wanting something that has all of the above should check out Hecktor Oaks. He is one of my indisputable favorites at the moment, and completely on form right now.
Hector Oaks does straddle most of the en vogue current techno styles and as you say is on form right now. Iād hesitate to recommend him to LT42 though as his mixing style can also be a bit āshoes in a washing machineā at times and so might trigger his aversion to electronic machinery somehow.
Heās also one of the current DJs who to my mind often hovers too much around the aforementioned 150bpm mark.
So far, has anyone genuinely come up with a legit better CD2 than CD1?
Only thing I know for sure from this threat is that Oakieās 007 CD2 is better than Digweedās 006 CD2, but Digweedās 006 CD1 is great than the sum of all parts.
Francios X is a guy who walks the line between sub genres quite well. Also worth checking out imo.
And nobody listens to techno (letās go)
zackster no way are they āPerc schoolā - for sure Percās current productions are incredibly ācrisp and cleanā, and occasionally he might use a gabber-esque kick-drum, but thatās where the similarities end. His breakout tracks werenāt even crisp either. His sound is incredibly drum/percussion focused. He rarely has any melodies at all. He also leans more towards the 80s/EBM side of things anything resembling 90s hardstyle/gabber/euro stuff. Ultimately, itās very British somehow, not āEuroā.
I also donāt think Dax J āfalls in betweenā Hadone and Perc - he has a lot in common with the Perc industrial side of things, but heās very far from the Hadone euro style, Iām not sure heās come close to touching it at all. Iāve generally considered Dax J more falling between the Perc industrial/British style and the more loopy old-school Detroit, Ben Sims etc. style.
Yes Nina is very all over the place, but she was frequently playing 90s fast trance and psy-trance stuff in contemporary techno sets pretty much before anyone, which partly opened the doors to the euro/scandi stuff. She also now plays all the big promos of that euro/scandi stuff alongside all the other random stuff she still does.
This one. Fantastic fucking tune!
zackster but see, to me thatās basically too fast to really dance to, and when you look at the crowd theyāre hardly dancing to it either. Thereās no time to do anything other than bop and sway a bit. The music seems be verging on losing the crowd rather than engaging them.
It might sound slightly bananas and I like listening to it for a bit, but it ultimately seems a bit hollow and redundant.
zackster I hadnāt clocked that was released on Monnom Black. It must be a more recent development as I can barely recall anything like that from the many sets Iāve heard of him. His 2018 Essential Mix was far from that style. I donāt recall his lockdown sets touching upon it either. His big productions have all been very rhythmic-focused as well, with little in the way of melody.
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Thats the one. Forgot Shlomo was the other one. Thought it was Kobosil for some reason.