Francios X is a guy who walks the line between sub genres quite well. Also worth checking out imo.

And nobody listens to techno (let’s go)

zackster no way are they “Perc school” - for sure Perc’s current productions are incredibly “crisp and clean”, and occasionally he might use a gabber-esque kick-drum, but that’s where the similarities end. His breakout tracks weren’t even crisp either. His sound is incredibly drum/percussion focused. He rarely has any melodies at all. He also leans more towards the 80s/EBM side of things anything resembling 90s hardstyle/gabber/euro stuff. Ultimately, it’s very British somehow, not “Euro”.

I also don’t think Dax J “falls in between” Hadone and Perc - he has a lot in common with the Perc industrial side of things, but he’s very far from the Hadone euro style, I’m not sure he’s come close to touching it at all. I’ve generally considered Dax J more falling between the Perc industrial/British style and the more loopy old-school Detroit, Ben Sims etc. style.

Yes Nina is very all over the place, but she was frequently playing 90s fast trance and psy-trance stuff in contemporary techno sets pretty much before anyone, which partly opened the doors to the euro/scandi stuff. She also now plays all the big promos of that euro/scandi stuff alongside all the other random stuff she still does.

      hugopal I also don’t think Dax J “falls in between” Hadone and Perc

      Ah see I actually learned of Hadone because Dax J played one of his tunes in a mix which I loved and had to track down.

        zackster but see, to me that’s basically too fast to really dance to, and when you look at the crowd they’re hardly dancing to it either. There’s no time to do anything other than bop and sway a bit. The music seems be verging on losing the crowd rather than engaging them.

        It might sound slightly bananas and I like listening to it for a bit, but it ultimately seems a bit hollow and redundant.

          zackster
          I think the main problem is the speed of it. Most of the Techno in the early 90’s never went above 130 BPM or possibly less. So all the new stuff you’ve posted is so much faster it just sounds like a racket.

              hugopal who is that guy Hadone is in a group with? I forget what they call themselves. They had a set out from a COVID rave that I remember absolutely loving.

                  zackster I hadn’t clocked that was released on Monnom Black. It must be a more recent development as I can barely recall anything like that from the many sets I’ve heard of him. His 2018 Essential Mix was far from that style. I don’t recall his lockdown sets touching upon it either. His big productions have all been very rhythmic-focused as well, with little in the way of melody.

                    zackster who is that guy Hadone is in a group with? I forget what they call themselves. They had a set out from a COVID rave that I remember absolutely loving.

                    Surely you mean Viper Diva?

                    But that’s Hadone with the aforementioned Shlomo.

                    Can’t recall any other groups Hadone is in.

                        Thats the one. Forgot Shlomo was the other one. Thought it was Kobosil for some reason.

                        Dubman I think the main problem is the speed of it. Most of the Techno in the early 90’s never went above 130 BPM or possibly less.

                        I can understand that view a bit when it nears 150, but as I like to remind this board peak-time late 90s Sasha was 140bpm.

                        Also, Jeff Mills was often easily over 140bpm in the early 90s.

                            Here is one to really make @Dan feel his age. Got these guys off of a Shlomo set.

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                              Getting this place to actually participate in a techno discussion has been like getting a puppy to listen to commands. I had to wear you all down with 8 days of your favorite thing, before you were calm enough to actually receive information.