Yes the artists make fuck all from Spotify, however as a showcase for artists its fantastic. I’ve discovered plenty of music on there I hadn’t heard heard before and tracked it down and I still buy loads of music - bandcamp, Traxsource etc

It’s also good for the convenience, the vast majority of my playlists are made up by music I already own

    And yeah that Dave Mancuso playlist is brilliant

    nicksneddon that’s pretty much my strategy, use spotify for exposure and try to funnel people to bandcamp. we’ve already seen a huge tech shift in music over the last two decades and artists are probably worse off than before, i just don’t see how it gets any better.

    • Amps replied to this.

        Amps i don’t disagree with the sentiment, but there’s no way that any significant number of people are willing to do that. at least not enough to change the way the system works. i’m also aware that apathetic view is part of the problem, i just have no faith in people voting with their wallets.

        the biggest issue for new artists, as i see it, is still the gate keeper system. i’m constantly submitting music to people with zero credentials in an effort to get exposure. it’s an absolute grind when a&r has been replaced with bloggers and playlist curators.

        • Amps replied to this.

            and there’s my point. as a user, i really like it too.

            Electronica

            Chillout

            Continouos Mixes

            Progressive classics

            mono-stereo It’s actually better that YouTube, but thats like saying you’d rather have a your knob trapped in a car door rather than a hot furnace. The reason Spotify takes so much slack is that it has the most market share by some way and their deals are really murky, complex, horrible pieces of shit from all accounts.

                Amps It’s actually better that YouTube, but thats like saying you’d rather have a your knob trapped in a car door rather than a hot furnace

                Given your virtuous stance on preventing others from trapping their dick in a car door, it seems slightly perverse that you would still singe your own Hampton in a furnace.

                  Amps this is a really long read, but i just happened across it and thought it fit pretty well with this discussion.

                    The people who are most missing out nowadays are the mangers.

                    I mean, if Spotify were around in the 90’s, there is no way I could ledge it like I do.

                      Smallman1 joke aside, is that actually true? wouldn’t most touring singers/bands/djs still employ managers that are well-paid?

                        Of course not.

                        The combination of album sales and touring/merchandise sales made it a win win for all.

                        Take single/album sales out of it and things are a lot more difficult commercially.

                          Smallman1 yeah that’s what i though, just making sure i’m not completely out of touch. 😉

                            There’s been no money in music sales for years, that’s not down to Spotify

                            exactly, if you’re not already popular, it’s almost impossible to become popular. algorithms aren’t helping, but they’re not the cause. we’ve got an excellent system for consumers, just not for the people who spend the time and money to produce music. that’s been the dichotomy between djs and producers for years too.