Ukraine war (WW3)

Hursty

Turkey are closing the waterway to Russian warships now

jonattonyeah

I don’t know shit about any of this, but Putin really seems like he messed up here, yeah? His buds must be like, dude, what now? Neat, we got another cold miserable place.

Should’ve invated Cyprus. There’s always a place for Naz’s prog to win people over.

bosstrabs

Tons of roadmen in Cyprus every summer.

UK Garage central.

Smallman1

bosstrabs Tons of roadmen in Cyprus every summer.

UK Garage central.

Napa baby.

Hursty

They already have invaded Cyprus, decades ago now, it’s crawling with Russians

Dan

Smallman1 Stuff of nightmares

LT42

303abuser this former Intelligence official from Finland seems to know about Belarus having some electronic issues almost 2 weeks before things started. More potential evidence this was a long range Op as opposed to reactive by Ukraine/Western Allies.

303abuser

LT42 who knows? could be as simple as a contingency plan too.

Hursty

Just seen the missile strike this morning, what a tragic act, the more I see, the more I think Russia will lose this war

Dan

Hursty Last thing Russia wants is street fighting as it could take years to occupy. Shocked to see they’ve really stepped it up with heavy artillery & rockets.

Shocking.

alistair

It’s fucking barbaric. He’s now indiscriminately targeting civilians.

LT42

alistair Ukraine are targeting civilians in Donetsk. Alls fair in love etc etc

Dubman

LT42
What’s your knowledge of the Minsk agreements. And is this one of the main reasons Putin is invading Ukraine.

Hursty

We need to do more, how long do we allow an unfair fight, time to release some proper assistance and hardware.

LT42

Hursty De-escalation is needed Hursty, not more petrol.

alistair

Hursty We cannot risk a nuclear confrontation so I don’t know what more we can do. Talk of no fly zones is dangerous

Lasersight

LT42 so you think they should surrender?

alistair

LT42 Agreed. As unpalatable as it is, I think it’s the only option we have.

mono-stereo

LT42 Agreed.

LT42

Dubman Probably, as mentioned before, Ukraine never stopped bombing Donetsk and the surrounding areas and then they started the blockade on the Crimean Canal which for the Russians was a massive dislocation from Minsk II. The NATO build ups along the borders have been provocative also but I don’t know enough about why that has happened to be honest. From a neutral perspective I can see why Putin has felt threatened, not enough to go to war of course but at least I can understand why it’s become a powder keg. The only people devoid of any blame in this mess are the civilians, everyone else invloved has either directly provoked it or has played a part in the escalations. I find the “poor old Ukraine” line to be increasingly pathetic tbh. David Axelrod stating he can’t go to bed or turn off the TV because he feels he’s turning his back on the Ukrainian people, absolute shite talk and part of an increasing narrative. Nobody blaming this solely on Russia can say that with a straight face, it’s far more complicated than that. The US have played a huge part in this too whilst feigning support for a people they really couldn’t give two fucks about.

alistair

LT42

Lasersight De-escalation is not surrender. A diplomatic solution is needed without mulitple hands pouring petrol on the fire and making the situation far worse.

Dan

alistair What are the Yanks making of this? Your out there aren’t you?

Dubman

LT42
I tried to listen to the Russian envoy at the UN yesterday and he did mention the Minsk agreements and that Ukraine had not stood by both parts.
Would like to know why none of this is being discussed on any mainstream media channel

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