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Mad_Cyril just a ddj400 controller

I would assume Pioneer haven’t spat out a completely useless item here, so yeah, learn the thing inside out, know what every dial or button does and then you can start to get an idea of it’s limitations.

As regards the bigger picture of your next purchase and dials vs faders, do you know anyone you can borrow a proper mixer off? Even if it’s only for an evening? That would be my move.

    Mad_Cyril
    Don’t know if you really liked that mix I sent you but it was done on a Numark mix track pro which very a basic controller so you I wouldn’t spend more money on something more expensive just yet.
    The echoing does sound a bit strange mind.

      Amps
      There are more limitations with with operator than the equipment 👍

      i’ll qualify this with i haven’t actually listed to the mix so maybe this is way off, but is it possible that the eq’s have really steep curves? using a 48db/octave cutoff, as an example, can cause phasing issues, but i can’t say i’ve ever noticed it out of any dj mixer.

      Dubman Don’t know if you really liked that mix I sent you but it was done on a Numark mix track pro which very a basic controller so you I wouldn’t spend more money on something more expensive just yet.

      I did mate, think I posted at the time that it opened my eyes to the importance of phrasing to maintain energy / flow. Great learning listening.

      I’m not spending anything for a long time, just beginning to think I prefer dials to sliders.

      Enjoying finding my way and an hour I did tonight sounded smoother

      303abuser you sacrifice the ability to properly gain stage

      I don’t even know what this means, so doubt I’m sacrificing anything just yet 🤣

        Mad_Cyril it’s probably more a thing with vinyl as volumes were all over the place with different pressings, but i’m sure the idea still applies.

        basically, track 1 is playing at whatever volume at it’s peak, we’ll call it 8/10. when track 2 is at it’s peak, it also needs to be at an 8, but the file is mastered quieter and it’s a 6 when the faders and gain knobs are at the same positions. you need to gain match track 2 to track 1 before bringing it in by increasing the gain knob. that way when the fader is at the top, the tracks are volume matched.

        if you’re leaving the faders up and using the gains to bring the new track in, you have to have really well trained ears to make sure the volume stays level from one mix to the next. otherwise you’ll get volume swings that become really noticeable, especially on a recorded mix.

          303abuser
          I see, that makes sense.

          Have auto-gain on at the moment so hopefully helps with that element.

          Something to bear in mind for the future maybe.

          Appreciate the patient explaining 🙂

            Mad_Cyril no worries, like i said, maybe doesn’t matter as much with digital files that you can normalize with software.

            Mad_Cyril I sort the gain out on the incoming track before anything else. You have more control with the channel fader then. In my shit humble

            Spent a good 20 minutes perusing this thread, and I’ve now got loads more to think about in terms of my own DJ stuff. I was recently in the market for a replacement for my aging DJM-600, but after looking at my 1200 & 1210 which I hadn’t even turned on for a good year or two, decided to splurge on an XDJ-700 (2nd one gets purchased when the Musician’s Friend reward points unlock in about a month…~$113 savings, woop-woop!).

            Both will be used as standalone Traktor controllers, seeing as I’m sick of looking at my laptop so much while mixing, and I also wanted to get back that old feeling of “manual” control. About the only thing I’m unsure about right now is controlling loops within Traktor itself, seeing as I tend to loop the absolute fuck out of tracks that don’t really fit together until they finally do. I’ve been using an NI Kontrol S2 that has Move and Loop control knobs (handy little bastards), but I don’t see any capability like that with the 700.

            /lifestory

              deathbysmurf XDJ 700 has loops in the touchscreen, you can just push one, it’s got all different lengths in it, up to 32 beats.

                5 days later

                I’ve not put out any Livingroom-sets because they’ve sucked lately. Still play every Friday, but listening to the recording they’re dull as fuck, Hernan-level trouble getting to second gear. Yet it sounds great when I’m playing. Weird.

                Some of it is probably beer, but maybe I also have too good a sound now, everything sounds intense when you play it loud.

                  Maybe you just need a change ?

                  I thought your mixing shot up in quality when you started pacing them out over the last couple of years.

                  Maybe something different will stretch you again? Freahen it up a bit.Some different styles or a different approach ?

                  Not as if you’re a rubbish DJ like Hernan

                  Homegrove I think a big part of that has to do with their search functions going to shit over the last few weeks. I think I’ve purchased all of 2 tracks from them since late January just because it’s such a slog to find decent tunes at the mo, and Bandcamp/Soundcloud search functionality is limited at best.

                  Homegrove everything sounds intense when you play it loud

                  that’s a definite possibility. i know when mixing during production, i try to mix as quietly as i can because everything sounds better loud.

                  Homegrove If you’re following the same labels and artists all the time… shirley what you are doing will stagnate a little? I genuinely suggest using different search methods, change it up a little.