Mix Club - The Remedial Class

303abuser

buy music you like and mix it in an order you like. if you’re good, you’ll have a style and people will enjoy it. if you’re not, at least you’re having fun.

Dan

No crates, just thrown them all in a playlist and see what works. Mixed in key is a bonus if your head scratching half way through or can’t get it to progress nicely. I’m fucking lucky I’m on some decent mail outs and my mate runs a promo company…so I hardly spend anything….prob about £5 a month. Rule of thumb is if you really want a track buy a WAV….that way you definitely need it and will use it rather than it being used once and then clogging up your HD.

Homegrove

I follow hundreds of labels and artists on BP, and just check new stuff from those on there. New artists and labels get added all the time. Otherwise I check “curated” places like Muting the Noise, Clone and staff tips on Whatpeopleplay. DJ mixes are a big source too. One reason I’ve bought so much music during lockdown has been the ridiculous amount of mixes to Shazam every week. I buy anything I like with no consideration if I’ll ever put it in a mix.

Mad_Cyril

Still fucking about…

Something @Unbroken1 said about mixing with the filters on a rotary has stuck in my head.

Spent last weekend fuxking around with the filters on my Fisher Price, found easier but getting pissed off with the echoey effect they produce. No way around it but was a lot easier than using sliders.

Swapped the filters for the gain controls this week, miles better (relatively speaking). Have more control and time.

Think the future might be rotary if i get better / less rubbish

Matt

Mad_CyrilNo matter how good/bad you are. If you are enjoying the fucking about on your Fisher Price and think its something you are going to stick at, It may be worth upgrading your gear.

I’ve always found getting better at anything is easier when you are using decent equipment.

Amps

Mad_Cyril echoey effect they produce

Details please.

Amps

Mad_Cyril Swapped the filters for the gain controls this week, miles better (relatively speaking). Have more control and time.

Having spent a fair bit of time on both I would urge you to stick at it and get good on your faders. In my highly unprofessional but time served opinion, once you get stuck in, there really isn’t any difference.

What mixer are you using at the moment?

Mad_Cyril

Matt
Haha. Nice one Matt. Might print that out and show it the Mrs 😎

Let’s see if I can pull off a semi coherent hour of tunes first!!!

Along_the_Wire

Mad_Cyril One of the best tips I got off Hannu was to just use sync until you’ve got the hang of the EQs

Mad_Cyril

Along_the_Wire
I’m all down with that

Mad_Cyril

Amps
I’m not great at describing so echoey might be there wrong word. If you flick through most if the transitions on the first ½ hour here you can hear the same.

Ref the channels, there’s no really difference to using the gain than the faders is there?

I still eq, but using gain knobs, as opposed to sliders, just feels easier to make adjustments amd establish the tune in the mix to me.

303abuser

Mad_Cyril I still eq, but using gain knobs, as opposed to sliders, just feels easier to make adjustments amd establish the tune in the mix to me.

you sacrifice the ability to properly gain stage if you use the gains pots to mix instead of faders, but that’s up to you to decide if it’s a problem or not. not saying one is right or wrong, just something to consider.

Amps

Mad_Cyril Not sure I can hear what you’re hearing… you don’t have the phaser or the flanger stuck on do you? 😆

Mad_Cyril

303abuser you sacrifice the ability to properly gain stage

I don’t even know what this means, so doubt I’m sacrificing anything just yet 🤣

Mad_Cyril

Amps
Haha no. But is what it sounds like, I’ll post something in the next few days.

And probably read the manual again!

Forget to add I’m not using a proper mixer, just a ddj400 controller (Fisher Price)

Amps

Mad_Cyril just a ddj400 controller

I would assume Pioneer haven’t spat out a completely useless item here, so yeah, learn the thing inside out, know what every dial or button does and then you can start to get an idea of it’s limitations.

As regards the bigger picture of your next purchase and dials vs faders, do you know anyone you can borrow a proper mixer off? Even if it’s only for an evening? That would be my move.

Dubman

Mad_Cyril
Don’t know if you really liked that mix I sent you but it was done on a Numark mix track pro which very a basic controller so you I wouldn’t spend more money on something more expensive just yet.
The echoing does sound a bit strange mind.

Mad_Cyril

Amps
There are more limitations with with operator than the equipment 👍

erik

Along_the_Wire which over +/- 4% pitch makes drums sound muddy

Along_the_Wire

erik Yeah, I stopped using it

Mad_Cyril

Dubman Don’t know if you really liked that mix I sent you but it was done on a Numark mix track pro which very a basic controller so you I wouldn’t spend more money on something more expensive just yet.

I did mate, think I posted at the time that it opened my eyes to the importance of phrasing to maintain energy / flow. Great learning listening.

I’m not spending anything for a long time, just beginning to think I prefer dials to sliders.

Enjoying finding my way and an hour I did tonight sounded smoother

303abuser

i’ll qualify this with i haven’t actually listed to the mix so maybe this is way off, but is it possible that the eq’s have really steep curves? using a 48db/octave cutoff, as an example, can cause phasing issues, but i can’t say i’ve ever noticed it out of any dj mixer.

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