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I see, that makes sense.

Have auto-gain on at the moment so hopefully helps with that element.

Something to bear in mind for the future maybe.

Appreciate the patient explaining šŸ™‚

      Mad_Cyril no worries, like i said, maybe doesnā€™t matter as much with digital files that you can normalize with software.

        Mad_Cyril I sort the gain out on the incoming track before anything else. You have more control with the channel fader then. In my shit humble

          Spent a good 20 minutes perusing this thread, and Iā€™ve now got loads more to think about in terms of my own DJ stuff. I was recently in the market for a replacement for my aging DJM-600, but after looking at my 1200 & 1210 which I hadnā€™t even turned on for a good year or two, decided to splurge on an XDJ-700 (2nd one gets purchased when the Musicianā€™s Friend reward points unlock in about a monthā€¦~$113 savings, woop-woop!).

          Both will be used as standalone Traktor controllers, seeing as Iā€™m sick of looking at my laptop so much while mixing, and I also wanted to get back that old feeling of ā€œmanualā€ control. About the only thing Iā€™m unsure about right now is controlling loops within Traktor itself, seeing as I tend to loop the absolute fuck out of tracks that donā€™t really fit together until they finally do. Iā€™ve been using an NI Kontrol S2 that has Move and Loop control knobs (handy little bastards), but I donā€™t see any capability like that with the 700.

          /lifestory

            deathbysmurf XDJ 700 has loops in the touchscreen, you can just push one, itā€™s got all different lengths in it, up to 32 beats.

                5 days later

                Iā€™ve not put out any Livingroom-sets because theyā€™ve sucked lately. Still play every Friday, but listening to the recording theyā€™re dull as fuck, Hernan-level trouble getting to second gear. Yet it sounds great when Iā€™m playing. Weird.

                Some of it is probably beer, but maybe I also have too good a sound now, everything sounds intense when you play it loud.

                  Maybe you just need a change ?

                  I thought your mixing shot up in quality when you started pacing them out over the last couple of years.

                  Maybe something different will stretch you again? Freahen it up a bit.Some different styles or a different approach ?

                  Not as if youā€™re a rubbish DJ like Hernan

                  Homegrove I think a big part of that has to do with their search functions going to shit over the last few weeks. I think Iā€™ve purchased all of 2 tracks from them since late January just because itā€™s such a slog to find decent tunes at the mo, and Bandcamp/Soundcloud search functionality is limited at best.

                    Homegrove everything sounds intense when you play it loud

                    thatā€™s a definite possibility. i know when mixing during production, i try to mix as quietly as i can because everything sounds better loud.

                      Homegrove If youā€™re following the same labels and artists all the timeā€¦ shirley what you are doing will stagnate a little? I genuinely suggest using different search methods, change it up a little.

                        Luckily, Iā€™m fucking dense and use Safari, so no problems at all.

                        Seems I needed to introduce a little change to the set up, and powered up Traktor again. I think I got a new mix done yesterday, will still need to listen to it through. Used my old set up, Xone P:X 5, Xone K2 and Traktor.

                        18 days later

                        changing temp throughout a mix

                        Been messing about with more tempo variation in my mixes for the last couple of weeks. Iā€™ve been trying to include tracks anywhere from 110 bpm to 130 in the same set. Itā€™s not something Iā€™ve ever really tried before and Iā€™m finding it harder than I expected.

                        As a practice exercise, Iā€™ve been aiming to increase the tempo by around 1 bpm on each track. By the time Iā€™ve faded out the outgoing track and Tried to slowly increase the tempo of the playing track (without it being too noticeable), Iā€™m finding the beatmatching and mixing in of the next track to be a bit of a panicked rush.

                        Wondering if anyone has any thoughts or advice on the matter.

                        Cheers

                          Matt I canā€™t do drastic changes, they always sound shit. The only way I can do it is with one track that has a beatless outro and mixing a faster track to that with a beatless intro.

                          I do however take the pitch up a few klicks (0.8 percent or something like that) after every transition. That way you can get from 118 bpm all the way to 122 in six hours!

                          • Matt replied to this.

                              Homegrove Iā€™m just experimenting a bit at the minute and seeing how things sound. Iā€™m getting a bit bored of hovering around the same bpm throughout the whole mix. Iā€™ll give the outro/into thing a go though. Cheers

                                ā€¦weirdly, I think Iā€™m always bolder with tempo changes when mixing live, not keen on doing too much of it on a recorded mix (unless its deliberately chill/downtempo).

                                Like Hannu says, big changes are tough when mixingā€¦. if you have an ā€˜end-goalā€™ tempo-wise, you need to bring it up very gradually over quite a few tracks. Iā€™d also say, donā€™t be afraid to just do the odd crossfade, you donā€™t HAVE to beat-mix every trackā€¦. something with a nice whooshy intro/outro, preferably in-key, can make for a cool direction change.

                                  Unbroken1 donā€™t be afraid to just do the odd crossfade, you donā€™t HAVE to beat-mix every trackā€¦. something with a nice whooshy intro/outro, preferably in-key, can make for a cool direction change.

                                  Yup. Some tracks call for it. If done well can sound great. Especially when the listener is 2mins into the new track and canā€™t figure out where it came from.