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Dubman
Grant has duct tape over everything except the flashing rings.

Purist

All about the rings 👊

    Dubman I’ve only ever noticed it in Rekordbox on my laptop prepping tracks, but I’ve got no idea what any of the keys mean f sharp into c minor?

        Oh yeah. The coloured rings. The thing about vinyl is when you pitch it up or down it changes the Key. Whereas with digital you can use Key lock.

          I’ve tried learning that ring, but it just doesn’t stick - gave it up years ago. I’m not right all the time by any stretch

          • Dan replied to this.

            Dubman Key lock is limited. The further you stretch the track away from its original tempo the more it can affect the quality of the signal. Some tracks can be ok, but others can be very noticeable.

              gcw you have to go analogue old old skool or get a read on the key on a digital version of the track on mixed in key or rekordbox. old skool is basically with a keyboard and trying to find the root note - its quite easy and there are some youtube videos on how to do it - you can actually do it manually on the mixed in key programme as there is a little keyboard on there to help. then just write the key and Carousel wheel code on the vinyl for future use.

                  baggers44 thanks. I bet I’d be surprised by the results. So many times I have been playing track, picked out the next track thinking ‘I bet this will go well with this ’ only to find they don’t go that well!

                  • Amps replied to this.

                      …sometimes I despair about the prep time I spend with music, creating folders, scanning, tagging. Then I remember what I used to go through when I learned to pitch mix, faffing with pitch pipes/keyboards, stickers and marker scribbles on vinyls and sleeves.

                      Along_the_Wire …in Rekordbox switch to the Camelot settings (6A, 6B, 7A, as opposed to G minor, B-flat major, D Minor etc.), it’s a piece of piss. I can walk you through it if you like.

                          gcw Yeah, what Baggers said, but basically for vinyl it’s trial and error. Find tunes that don’t clash, then try and create something worth listening to from them.

                              Dubman Have just been listening to someone do a ‘guest mix’ on 6 Music and it’s basically this. Can’t see who it is, but I can only assume they are a producer of some sort, because if they where a DJ they would be out of work.

                              • Amps replied to this.

                                  Amps Bingo! it was Kelly Lee Owens. Pity, I quite like her productions.

                                      Fuck me, the amount of admin involved in DJing nowadays. 😅

                                      Unbroken1 in Rekordbox switch to the Camelot settings (6A, 6B, 7A, as opposed to G minor, B-flat major, D Minor etc.), it’s a piece of piss. I can walk you through it if you like.

                                      Is there any benefit to switching to the Camelot settings? Or is it just a personal preference thing?

                                          Amps
                                          I really rated her first album. Not keen on her latest effort though.

                                            Matt …not really, if you aren’t musically trained though, it’s much more instantaneous than learning that an F-sharp minor will work next to an A major. The new players will colour-code key compatible tracks anyway.

                                              You still need to learn which Camelot codes go with which, so it’s pretty much like reading music. I actually think I was better before I used MIK with my tracks. Once I started using MIK I became obsessed with key mixing when you can still be creative off key and it just felt unnatural/cheating. Trying to stop using the keys for track selection was like weaning myself off a drug addiction.

                                              …learning which go with which is specifically designed to be easy/memorable with Camelot though, MUCH less intuitive to know A flat minor > B major etc. unless you have some level of musical training.

                                              Absolutely agree with your point though, it’s a tool, tracks that are in-key on paper don’t necessarily sound good together and vice versa, never let it 100% dictate track selection.

                                              Personally find unusual/unexpected key transitions much more interesting that an endless succession of tracks in the same key.