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NasserAlazzawi I’m getting a bit sick of hearing about this. Not because of the challenge that needs to be addressed but because people I know are actually literally panicking and the media is making it worse.

Those with learned helplessness within them are in actual despair. And those who normally face bigger challenges adequately are heading that way.

People on low incomes are panicking because they are already struggling to pay their bills mate. I dare say many of us here are somewhat immune to these price hikes, but the so called cost of living crisis is real.

      Nas is a trustafarian living the dream in Cyprus.

      RichM it’s the wholesale that are ripping people off and profiteering - this isn’t inflation, it’s price fixing if it’s anything. The retail end with the like of Octopus are struggling too. It’s cunts like BP, Exxon and British Gas that are pissing down our backs and telling us it’s raining. There needs to be a serious government intervention - taxing them more will just compound the problem. These people are absolute fucking cunts.

      It’s fair to comment on it with the average household income being £31k (gross) and your energy bill is 10% of that. People on state pensions who need heat in the winter are really gonna suffer - people need to see beyond their comfortable lives.

          Along_the_Wire It’s cunts like BP, Exxon and British Gas that are pissing down our backs and telling us it’s raining

          I really hope these companies get what’s coming to them. Absolute fucking cunts.

          On a separate matter, considering the share values in these companies must have gone through the roof, you would expect pensions which are tied into these should also see the benefit of this. I wonder if that will ever materialise

            https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/26/ofgem-raises-energy-price-cap-to-3549

            "In a blow for hard-pressed consumers already struggling with soaring inflation, Ofgem approved the £1,578 increase on the current figure of £1,971 for the average dual-fuel tariff – a rise of 80%.

            The cap will be almost treble what it was a year earlier last October, when it was raised to £1,277."

            Meanwhile real wages are still below what they were in 2008.

              mono-stereo People on low incomes are panicking because they are already struggling to pay their bills mate.

              I know mate, I agree. And I totally agree with @Old-Dutch about civil unrest.

              I do wonder if a real solution will come first, or the unrest.

              It’s a real problem for normal everyday people. I know hard working teachers and people working good security jobs in the ports and they were telling me how hard it is to make ends meet with one child and a modest lifestyle in a modest area to live.

              Like really worried about losing the extra £40 per month to get a new iPhone. But a £130 bill going to what sounds like £400 or £500 per month is fucking nuts.

              Some moron was on radio 2 earlier saying ‘everyone going to be fine everyone has excess at the end of the month and everyone has savings’ - people can be so stupid when they think the country is how their immediate circle is.

                Along_the_Wire

                As the overton window slides to the right we all graciously accept a lower quality of living. We don’t feel the full effect because we’re not at the sharp end.

                Meanwhile we have BP’s boss (earning 4.5m a year) describing his company as “a cash machine” whilst people in full time work are using food banks.

                • erik replied to this.

                    Not sure how we can be held this much to ransom by wholesale prices when accordng to this we are nearly at 50% renewables vs total consumption

                    https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/how-much-uks-energy-renewable#:~:text=Breaking%20records%3A%20The%20UK's%20renewable%20energy%20in%20numbers&text=In%202020%20renewables%20accounted%20for,time%20in%20the%20nation's%20history.

                    Plus where have all the grants gone for solar and wind power? I live in the country and the wind down here is mental. Stick a turbine in the back garden and solar and we’d be away ……..

                      IndustryStandard The 50% is still enormous. I’d imagine the renewable wholesalers are getting the slice of the action too - when in Rome and all that. Cunts.

                        Turn off the fucking news. Saves you a lot of energy. Mentally that is.

                        It’s the OAP’s who’ve suffered pension shortfalls that I feel sorry for. Put into the system all their life and had the carpet pulled from beneath them when they need it the most.

                        On the other hand, these professional wellfair parents who have got 6 kids and another on the way, sucking from the system because it pays better than a real job, constantly make bad decisions and choices in life, who didn’t want to live within their means from the beginning…not so much.

                          ScottBailey On the other hand, these professional wellfair parents who have got 6 kids and another on the way, sucking from the system because it pays better than a real job, constantly make bad decisions and choices in life, who didn’t want to live within their means from the beginning…not so much.

                          Here we fucking go, LOL