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  • The whole energy crisis thing

mono-stereo People on low incomes are panicking because they are already struggling to pay their bills mate.

I know mate, I agree. And I totally agree with @Old-Dutch about civil unrest.

I do wonder if a real solution will come first, or the unrest.

It’s a real problem for normal everyday people. I know hard working teachers and people working good security jobs in the ports and they were telling me how hard it is to make ends meet with one child and a modest lifestyle in a modest area to live.

Like really worried about losing the extra £40 per month to get a new iPhone. But a £130 bill going to what sounds like £400 or £500 per month is fucking nuts.

Some moron was on radio 2 earlier saying ‘everyone going to be fine everyone has excess at the end of the month and everyone has savings’ - people can be so stupid when they think the country is how their immediate circle is.

    Along_the_Wire

    As the overton window slides to the right we all graciously accept a lower quality of living. We don’t feel the full effect because we’re not at the sharp end.

    Meanwhile we have BP’s boss (earning 4.5m a year) describing his company as “a cash machine” whilst people in full time work are using food banks.

    • erik replied to this.

        Not sure how we can be held this much to ransom by wholesale prices when accordng to this we are nearly at 50% renewables vs total consumption

        https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/how-much-uks-energy-renewable#:~:text=Breaking%20records%3A%20The%20UK's%20renewable%20energy%20in%20numbers&text=In%202020%20renewables%20accounted%20for,time%20in%20the%20nation's%20history.

        Plus where have all the grants gone for solar and wind power? I live in the country and the wind down here is mental. Stick a turbine in the back garden and solar and we’d be away ……..

          IndustryStandard The 50% is still enormous. I’d imagine the renewable wholesalers are getting the slice of the action too - when in Rome and all that. Cunts.

            Turn off the fucking news. Saves you a lot of energy. Mentally that is.

            It’s the OAP’s who’ve suffered pension shortfalls that I feel sorry for. Put into the system all their life and had the carpet pulled from beneath them when they need it the most.

            On the other hand, these professional wellfair parents who have got 6 kids and another on the way, sucking from the system because it pays better than a real job, constantly make bad decisions and choices in life, who didn’t want to live within their means from the beginning…not so much.

              ScottBailey On the other hand, these professional wellfair parents who have got 6 kids and another on the way, sucking from the system because it pays better than a real job, constantly make bad decisions and choices in life, who didn’t want to live within their means from the beginning…not so much.

              Here we fucking go, LOL

                Given how many energy providers in the U.K. have been going bust it’s clearly not them that are creaming off profits - they’re buying energy at stratospheric prices and selling it to consumers here at the price cap, which in many cases isn’t profitable… so they go bust.

                Any companies that own oil and gas fields are the ones that are profiting … or the countries that export energy (and tax those exports) - Russia particularly … do British Gas own any natural gas fields? Don’t think so and so they’re unlikely to be profiteering…

                  Jules72 its sovereign wealth funds that are cashing in, waging war and buying football clubs, often at the same time.

                      alistair cashing in on what? They’re invested in global financial markets, which are doing crap right now…they do collect in funds from energy export proceeds but they’re assets are being hosed right now… net net their returns will be badly negative right now

                          ScottBailey On the other hand, these professional wellfair parents who have got 6 kids and another on the way, sucking from the system because it pays better than a real job, constantly make bad decisions and choices in life, who didn’t want to live within their means from the beginning…not so much.

                          …fucking hell Scott, you really think in the grand scheme of things they are the problem!?