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The article states “her controversial stance on the transgender community, which critics have called transphobic” - some people on twitter accusing her of being “transphobic” is not proof of her actually being transphobic.

I was curious if you were actually capable of pinpointing the exact part of her stance which can reasonably be defined as “transphobic” and not just a stance on the issue which you disagree with.

“Transphobia” can obviously exist, but I wanted to see you if you can specify exactly what she’s said which justifies that tag; the article you posted doesn’t do that.

    Kells77 as per my response to Hannu above, the accusations referenced in that article, while accusing her of transphobia, don’t actually demonstrate that she’s transphobic. If she is, the article doesn’t prove it.

    Also, Hannu was the person accusing her of being transphobic - he should supporting on what basis making such an accusation is valid. I wanted to hear what he had to say in justifying his claim. I’m already aware of the Rowling/trans debate btw, I just wondered how Hannu had managed to come to his conclusion.

        hugopal Well to be fair, how do you “prove” someone’s transphobic, other than judging their words and actions?

        But I get your point. I think it’s just that the question was received in a confrontational manner, given some of your other banter on here. Hannu’s allowed his opinion, he’s provided the source for his conclusion, and there’s no REAL way to prove she is or she isn’t, so I’m not sure there’s anything else that can be provided.

            To be honest, I can understand why burds wouldn’t want somebody with an adam’s apple and a massive swinging lob-on wandering into their changing rooms and then telling everyone in there it was their right to be there.

            That doesn’t make me transphobic. That is just my reflection on the cold, hard experience of being removed from women’s changing rooms.

              bosstrabs That is just my reflection on the cold, hard experience of being removed from women’s chan

              Ceiling tiles aren’t as robust as they look are they Dave

                Kells77 there’s no REAL way to prove she is or she isn’t

                And yet we have absolute mental cases whose ability to present cold, hard facts come in the form of sharing tweets, happy to label her as a transphobic piece of shit. I’m just playing devils advocate on here as per but the shit people get away with now under the banner of fighting for social justice is staggering. That’s not a rant at you, Kells. Just pointing out a fact.

                    i’ve followed nothing about this jk rowling story, but from those tweets, is she not just identifying a difference between biological sex and gender identification?

                    Careful now 303, you’ll be getting a ku klux Klan hood in the JC secret Santa at this rate…

                      Homegrove
                      Think this is more another example of cancel culture types getting mortally offended at someone expressing an opinion.

                      One should be able to discuss ‘difficult subjects’ without being screamed at because your view doesn’t comply with someone elses

                        Kells77 Hannu’s allowed his opinion, he’s provided the source for his conclusion,

                        He didn’t present it as “his opinion” though - he outright called her “transphohic” (not that if he’d have framed it as just his opinion it would have been much less questionable).

                        As Mad Cyril and si indicate above, Hannu’s accusation is demonstrative of exactly one of the key issues which the letter is pointing out - people are throwing around what are serious allegations as casually and mindlessly as a batty woman chucking bits of stale bread to pigeons, and furthermore people are subsequently believing them and acting on them. The article Hannu posted is not sufficient enough to justify making such a significant and nasty claim.

                        Words have meaning and consequences.

                            Far right = thick, inbred bastards who hate anyone who isn’t a straight, white male born in their country.

                            Far left = thick, inbred bastards who hate anyone who doesn’t agree with their opposing opinions of the straight, white males born in their country.

                            Then somewhere in the middle you have 99% of us, who believe everyone on the planet should be treated the same and deserve the same chances in life. And are sound as fuck.

                              -si- i agree, except that it’s less than 99% of us in the middle, probably closer to 60% if the internet is any indication. maybe the stupid are just louder, i don’t know.

                                Just to be clear, I’m not having a go at Hannu.

                                He’s as entitled to his opinion as anyone else.

                                Homegrove ..see my post above. I’m not convinced she’s transphobic (not sure I entirely agree with her either), but now she’s expressed her opinion, people are desperate to ‘cancel’ her, and won’t listen to the nuances of what she’s saying or debate the topic in any rational way.

                                  hugopal people are throwing around what are serious allegations as casually and mindlessly as a batty woman chucking bits of stale bread to pigeons

                                  Seems as good an opportunity as any to get some Mary Poppins in

                                      Over the years I’ve found the best way to mange my prejudices is to hate absolutely everyone equally.

                                        -si- And yet we have absolute mental cases whose ability to present cold, hard facts come in the form of sharing tweets,

                                        And people who aren’t so mental but still rely on Twitter for their ‘news’.

                                        Have a read of this

                                        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/one-third-uk-may-not-get-coronavirus-vaccine-one-developed-new/

                                        And note the correlation of those suspicious of a vaccine with where they get their news from.

                                        Highlights, for me, the danger of Social Media.

                                        Folks blindly posting unverified shite from Twitter and representing them as fact really grinds my gears.

                                          Old-Dutch Over the years I’ve found the best way to mange my prejudices

                                          Did you mean Manage or Minge Dutchy?