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PS when you go, use the word ‘egregious’ a lot.

Millsy Old Estonian

Fairly sure there no Estonians in Government.

I could be wrong though.

    bosstrabs sure, some people would just rather listen to misleading soundbites from Nigel Farage.

      hugopal sure, some people would just rather listen to misleading soundbites from Nigel Farage.

      The question ‘How do we remove them?’ posed by Tony Benn (cited previously by Alistair) is a reasonable one though.

      How do you personally remove von der Leyen?

      Removing Boris Johnson is straightforward, although obviously you have to wait for the next GE.

        It’s a big problem that the EU and its staunchest followers don’t see that as a particularly problematic issue.

        Junker was begging to be removed. Handsy drunken provincial joke of a politician

        bosstrabs Removing Boris Johnson is straightforward, although obviously you have to wait for the next GE.

        Removing von der Leyen is straightforward, although generally you have to wait for the next Presidential vote - when the leader you’ve voted for and entrusted to make decisions will act with the other elected leaders in deciding whether they should continue or not.

        It is also possible to remove them during their term via a vote of no confidence in the Parliament - the threat of one ended Jacques Santer’s reign in 1999 and led to his Commission cabinet all resigning.

        Perhaps if the UK populace themselves are particularly unhappy with the standing President then they can make the view known via their MEP to the European Parliament, or via their MP to the PM. They could also vote for a party in line with their political views who will in turn be more likely to support a President who shares a similar political outlook.

          bosstrabs you’ve not really clarified how it is a problem. I’ve answered all the points you’ve raised so far.

          It’s actually like dealing with someone with Asperger’s at this point. I know how it works, you fail to see how your answer, while accurate, is problematic to many people.

          IT’S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THE AVERAGE VOTER CANNOT DIRECTLY REMOVE AN EXECUTIVE THEY WANT TO GET RID OF.

            Does the problem not partly lie with decades of misinformation from our eurosceptic press, rather than the mechanism itself?

            A big part of the problem is the education system. As an example, I went to a Catholic school and whilst the sex was fantastic, there was one year where I did 5 hours of RE a week (including a mass) opposed to 3hours of maths.

            Why are kids not taught politics and about real life finances - mortgages, interest rates, inflation, loans, taxes, VAT etc.? You know real things that will become apparent in your life as opposed to a load of old shite of no use to anyone.

              Old-Dutch Er, we were. In a state comprehensive in the mid 90s. It was called PSE but has other names in other schools, such as ‘Civics’.

              Old-Dutch Why are kids not taught politics and about real life finances - mortgages, interest rates, inflation, loans, taxes, VAT etc.?

              I do wonder this myself. I’ve worked with relatively bright people in the past who turned out to be financially illiterate and have gotten themselves into all kinds of bother as a result.

              It should be mandatory - in a curriculum that all kids have to learn

              It’s literally part of the national curriculum and has been for years!

              Force them to watch the Martin Lewis show

              I didn’t have any classes on it Dave and the school I went to is one of the best ‘grant maintained’ schools in the county based on GCSE and A-Level results.

              There was no PSE - we got Religious Education