zackster Star Wars fucking sucks dude. The point of your comment is absolutely lost on me and only serves to deplete the respect I have for you even further.

    vinnyt77 Fuck off, you horrendous piece of weapons grade shit.

    Way to dodge the point.

    The Ottoman Empire fought with the Germans in WW1 - should the allies have just done nothing, or chosen to lose?

    So-called “Palestine” was basically owned/“occupied”/“colonised”, whatever the heck you wish to claim it as, by the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years prior.

        hugopal I’m not dodging the point, you mind-numbing prick. I’m choosing not to talk to you about it.

            hugopal It’s not a cop out. You have two groups of people fighting for centuries over land, based on who’s fairytale they choose to believe. They’re all dumb, so are you.

                vinnyt77 I’m not dodging the point, you mind-numbing prick. I’m choosing not to talk to you about it.

                Clearly you have nothing worthwhile to say anyway.

                    303abuser You have two groups of people fighting for centuries over land, based on who’s fairytale they choose to believe. They’re all dumb, so are you.

                    Which “two groups of people” is that then?

                    That seems a pretty dumb comment.

                        vinnyt77 Buried my Dad on Thursday. There’s a small chance you might be bearing the brunt.

                        I stand by my comments.

                        Sorry to hear about your dad, but was he killed by an Israeli sniper or something?!

                            hugopal

                            Ok - I’ll give you a lol for that. 👍️

                            I honestly don’t have the energy to get into the why of you being wrong. You’re just gonna have to trust me on this one….

                              hugopal I know my comment was cryptic, but you might be able to piece it together after a good night’s sleep and a cup of coffee.

                                  Absolutely hate palestines who don’t appreciate good music, and now they’ve gone and destroyed a music festival?

                                  My condolences, @vinnyt77. Hope you are able to hold on to the happy memories.

                                  My only expertise lies in a “Peace & Conflict in the Middle East” class I took in college two decades ago, and while the teacher was relatively neutral, she was also Arab-American. I remember we were taught that the Israel-Palestine conflict was born from a lot of shady wheeling and dealing by the British after the WWII. Not the same as Indian partition, but definitely parallels.

                                  I’ve found myself siding with the Palestinians over the years, maybe because of the colour of my skin and that I’ve only had positive experiences with Arab culture. The atrocities faced by the Palestinians over the last 50 years also seem to far outweigh what the Jewish people have faced. I still think about the murder of that female journalist from a couple years back.

                                  Also not sure how much I can trust from what I’m seeing on the Internet - not taking away from the tragedy or the sheer horror, but what is obviously a drug filled psy trance party is being branded all over the media as a “peace festival”.