hugopal I just see sheer desperation and people who have been oppressed for generations in those videos.

Put a gun in Ahmad’s hand and turn his skin to white with some blue eyes, and all of a sudden he’s autistic and mentally unstable. More to the point he’s under 18, so really anything goes. Tell that to the James Bulger family.

      hugopal What do the killed IDF terrorists get? The guys who press the button and bombard schools, hospitals and murder 1000s of children?

        Another novel-length thread worth reading. Good points about how Israel is happy to embrace known anti-semites as long as they support Israel. And Hugo-like call other Jewish people who do not support Israel in it’s current apartheid form anti-semites. For people like them the only real Jew is one who is a Zionist.

        Homegrove refreshing to see someone be so explicitly “genocide is cool, kill them all.”

        You mean all the people chanting “from the river to the sea”?

        As per Owen Jones’ confusing conversation earlier, if Israel are committing “genocide” then so are Gaza.

          rhouses I just see sheer desperation and people who have been oppressed for generations in those videos

          A 13 year-old hasn’t even been alive for a generation - chasing after another kid with a knife with intent to kill is clearly a sign of having a screw loose. And Ahmad was from Jerusalem btw, it’s not as if he was someone who had somehow been forced to leave anywhere.

          rhouses Put a gun in Ahmad’s hand and turn his skin to white with some blue eyes, and all of a sudden he’s autistic and mentally unstable. More to the point he’s under 18, so really anything goes. Tell that to the James Bulger family.

          I have no idea what point you’re trying to make here? Any kid of that age willing to run after another kid with a knife to stab them is clearly an incredibly disturbed and mentally unstable individual, whatever their race. The fact that he was detained is completely understandable. The killers of James Bulger were also jailed btw, despite them having been even younger at 10 years-old when they committed their offence. So really you’re agreeing that it was deserved.

              Not really reading this thread properly, but I do now want to downvote Homegrove’s posts even more than Hugo’s.

              How did that happen?

              Homegrove they have lived in a bubble for years. They speak this way openly amongst themselves and just assume everyone else agrees because the west does nothing but shower them with praise and cash. Now that they have a platform to share their views and defend their actions they seem genuinely confused as to why everyone is suddenly upset with their daily routines.

                Remember when folks here denied Israel attacked hospitals? How the fuck can anyone still be on Israel’s side?

                  Really Homegrove it’s very fucking simple.

                  Would you rather live under Israeli rule than Palestinian rule?

                  Because if the former, you could still play your records to (an admittedly small) handful of diverse PLUR-ed up people of different nationalities, who include gays who wouldn’t be stoned to death, whereas in the latter you would have already been chucked off a roof with your cats just for looking ‘infidel’.

                    Homegrove Yes, and of course Palestinian Muslims can freely convert to Christianity can’t they?

                    No, thought not, it’s illegal and they can get stoned to death for apostasy.

                        bosstrabs the only news story I found with a “stoning palestine” were when five Israeli youths killed a Palestine woman in 2019 by stoning her.

                          bosstrabs Hamas has performed executions in Palestine since 2007, but again, it’s Hamas, and they’ve done them without permission from Palestanian Authority in Ramallah. None were for converting away from Islam, or abandoning it.

                            None of Hamas’ atrocities come close to those trabbs you posted yesterday, Dave.

                            Already pulled the trigger.

                            On those trabs. Not Hamas.

                            Homegrove genuine question Hanners: what if you are on no ones side because those promoting wanton violence are all essentially fascist, fundamentalist cunts who long ago have turned their backs on any form of compromise and misled their people into a view of the future which drives their opponents into the sea ?

                                baggers44 that’s perfectly acceptable. I’m not saying regular Palestinians are perfect, I’ve just tried to make people defending Israel’s actions as reasonable think a bit.