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Homegrove Something familiar about this.
You can further consider the rights and wrongs, but to add some important, unsurprisingly overlooked detail to this:
The event which “Jüdische Stimme” are by their own admission helping to promote, as well as fund through their bank account, is being organised primarily by an organisation called ‘Samidoun’. Samidoun were made illegal in Germany in November at the same time as Hamas - they are recognised as a front for the Palestinian political group the ’Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine" (who are in turn a member of the ‘Palestine Liberation Organisation’).
Samidoun and the PFLP are among the more extreme of the Palestinian political groups, calling for a one-state (Palestinian) solution to the Palestine-Israel conflict and publicly denying Israel’s right to exist. Israel classify PFLP as a terrorist organisation.
Previous Samidoun events include things such as the following: "In October 2022, Samidoun held a rally in front of the European Parliament in Brussels. The leader of the rally, Samidoun’s Belgium-based European coordinator Mohammed Khatib, called for the defeat of Israel, the European Union and the United States “by any means necessary,” [including “Kalashnikovs, rockets and bullets”]. He said the Israeli ambassador to Belgium should be afraid, as should all Zionists and the European Union." Samidoun promotional material also glorifies Hamas activities.
The EU have also been discussing over the last year whether to ban Samidoun.
Samidoun are not just some hippy-dippy “won’t someone please think of the poor Palestinian people, can’t everyone just live in peace?!” type of organisation who were banned in Germany alongside Hamas for no reason. The fact of ‘Jüdische Stimme’ using its bank account to fund Samidoun activities on German soil will likely be the reason for its account being frozen.
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/banned-pro-palestine-group-to-hold-congress-in-berlin-hu15h1ik
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/pressemitteilungen/EN/2023/11/banned-hamas-samidoun.html
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samidoun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_for_the_Liberation_of_Palestine
Go the Irish!
Lol, UNRWA staff participated in the October 7th attack.
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@hugopal Do you think we’re seeing a proportionate response by Israel to the October 7 attacks by Hamas?
Guess we will never really know who bombed that hospital back in 2023
They’ve just taken out some Iranians in Syria for good measure
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Still waiting for the West to condemn this atrocity….
Not to worry though, Dave is on the case
“The UK’s foreign secretary, David Cameron, has called for a “full, transparent explanation” from Israel after seven aid workers, including a British national, were killed in an Israeli airstrike.”
Ben has come out and pretty much said “Shit happens in wartime”
They did this once before, under W I think, and got away with it. There is way more pressure on them now, but I have seen nothing to lead me to believe that this will be any different.
You can put Israel in the same camp as Russia.
Total pariahs.
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Hugo I’m succinct and bang on.
2 things you never are.
This is soooo bad
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Smallman1 Hugo I’m succinct and bang on.
2 things you never are.
Most of the West actively funds and backs Israel, while having ostracised and imposed sanctions on Russia. One is a “pariah”, the other is very much not.
How’s that for “succinct and bang on” you monumental div?!
Maybe you didn’t even know what “pariah” actually meant.
Muchas gracias Hugo!
Remember when there was a multi month media outrage over Sean Spicer?
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3 ex-UKSF lads taken out as well
It appears as though Zack’s post has been confirmed, they systematically took them out 1 by 1 even though they were trying to rescue survivors from each missile attack
If this isn’t a war crime I’m not sure what is
Not the old “There’s no evidence to suggest…..” line before any investigation has taken place.
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Israel accuses Hamas of using human shields
The IDF actually do
Joe to the right of Sunak. Nice
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Zackster: can I have healthcare please?
Jobe Iden: Sorry but we need the money for other things.
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I see Braverman is following Priti Patel’s lead and just popping over to Israel to meet ministers and army chiefs
Even thought she’s not in government
Boy do I look foolish!
Remember when certain members here were certain Israel would never target a hospital?
I will give Hugo the benefit of the doubt and say that he is just really susceptible to Israeli propaganda. “Measure the crater. Its far too small to have come from an IDF rocket.” One for the ages that!
Lol @propaganda. Didn’t we all learn in school that was only a tactic deployed by our enemies?
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Homegrove Remember when certain members here were certain Israel would never target a hospital?
I’m pretty sure that’s not how I phrased it.
zackster “Measure the crater. Its far too small to have come from an IDF rocket.” One for the ages that!
In the incident you are both referring to - any missile fired by whoever did not actually hit a hospital, it just landed in one of the car parks (hence the crater). The hospital building itself wasn’t destroyed.
Surely if based on what you consider to be the case based on the above stories just posted, if it was rather Israel who fired the missiles they would have actually hit and destroyed the building.
As an aside, later on the al-Shifa hospital building was targeted because it was considered for years to be a base for Hamas, Israel didn’t deny that case.