Amps & Zdog's Viva La Revolution thread

hugopal · 5 Jan

RichM There is something that Hugo has said which sort of makes sense (I think). Amps has chosen not to have kids as a rationale for what he is doing to protect the planet. Yet based on his views of me flying and he doesn’t, must also suggest that anyone who has kids (ie opposite of what he is doing) aren’t making the right choices for our planet? Am I on the right path here?

But if we all do the same as Amps, as he clearly thinks he lives his life in a positive way to our planet / society, then we will be extinct within 100 odd years anyway

Yes, that is what his “logic” indicates.

If having no kids is a commendable, morally righteous act which helps save the planet, then it would imply that having kids is an objectionable, morally improper act which helps destroy the planet.

hugopal · 5 Jan

Along_the_Wire you don’t need 3 or 4 kids - that’s where the population problem is.

The average birth-rates in the west are already notably below replacement rate and falling…

Replacement rate in developed countries is 2.1 kids per woman - in the UK the fertility rate is currently just 1.49 kids per woman, in the EU it’s 1.46 kids per woman, in the US it’s 1.66. While over in Japan it’s 1.26, and China is way down at 1.18.

Hursty · 5 Jan

hugopal yep

Along_the_Wire · 5 Jan

hugopal I’m not talking about the west, I’m talking about the issue with the global population.

I’m aware of birth rates in the west - I read newspapers too.

OOld-Dutch · 5 Jan

We need more Fred Wests to battle climate change

hugopal · 5 Jan

Along_the_Wire I’m not talking about the west, I’m talking about the issue with the global population.

I think it calls for Amps to do the morally righteous thing and get a boat to Benin, Uganda, Congo, Pakistan and Iraq etc. and get them to slow down…

Smallman1 · 5 Jan

I put the recycling out every Monday.

This is Dave Angel signing out.

Hursty · 5 Jan

Smallman1 doing your bit, most people are doing something, however it will never be enough for the eco warriors who want to shame you for every single action or life choice.

LT42 · 5 Jan

hugopal If having no kids is a commendable, morally righteous act which helps save the planet, then it would imply that having kids is an objectionable, morally improper act which helps destroy the planet

No it doesn’t imply that at all. Thats what your contrarian, idiotic reasoning implies it is.

hugopal · 5 Jan

LT42 No it doesn’t imply that at all. Thats what your contrarian, idiotic reasoning implies it is.

How so? Just saying something is incorrect doesn’t make it incorrect - what’s your reasoning?!

Mad_Cyril · 5 Jan

Old-Dutch
I think Fred & Fritzel would make a dynamic climate duo.

Perfect combination of domestic interior and exterior upcycling to save the planet.

OOld-Dutch · 5 Jan

Lol. Some team they’d have been

LT42 · 5 Jan

hugopal because he’s talking about a personal choice and there could be a number of reasons as to how that would impact his own carbon footprint. Hursty asked him about his personal contribution, you’re the one who implied the nonsense and what you wrote is some of the dumbest shit I’ve read on here in a while, and that’s really saying something.

bosstrabs · 5 Jan

Smallman1 I put the recycling out every Monday.

This is Dave Angel signing out.

But do you sort into recyclables and residuals?

NO BECAUSE ALL YOUR POSTS ARE RECYCLED AND YOU ARE A RESIDUAL MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

Mad_Cyril · 5 Jan

Hursty
There’s nothing wrong with being challenged to do more though is there, within reason.

We could all do more.

Let’s use Ed as an example.

Putting his rubbish out isn’t really much of an effort, but isn’t the limits of what he does either - don’t think he owns a car either and is a public transport kinda guy. More positives.

Could he do more, probably.

But harassing him to do so without recognising the good he already he does is a bit imbalanced.

However, there are vast swathes of people who just don’t think about it - I watched some cunt in the supermarket car park just idling a big diesel ute thing for half an hour, you could see the plumes of shite drifting across the car park. See same outside schools FFS.

More awareness = good, and change needs advocates. Even if snooker fans are inconvenienced.

hugopal · 5 Jan

LT42 Hursty asked him about his personal contribution, you’re the one who implied the nonsense

A contribution indicates a positive act.

Your waffle has not explained how if you can consider not doing something to be a positive, how you could then consider doing that thing to also be something positive.

LT42 · 5 Jan

hugopal Your waffle has not explained how if you can consider not doing something to be a positive, how you could then consider doing that thing to also be something positive.

The Positive Word Salad weeds?

Mad_Cyril · 5 Jan

Old-Dutch
Lucrative sponsorship deals with Speedy Hire or B&Q

Dubman · 5 Jan

Mad_Cyril
Could we also add our dear friend Mr Sutcliffe. Less women = less children

Mad_Cyril · 5 Jan

LT42 The Positive Word Salad weeds?

Fred would clear the weeds