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Homegrove What exactly is wrong with woke Alistair?

In fairness to the original intent, the far left has completely lost the plot by creating more division in an attempt at equality.

      303abuser Walz is a perfect pic because the far left can compromise with him. Shapiro with his IDF-past and pardoned murderers not so much.

          Homegrove I don’t know too much about Walz, but from what I’ve seen, I’d agree that he looks like the right choice. With the exception of outliers like Palin though, the choice of running mate rarely moves the needle for voters. I still think Harris is the problem and is going to lose, we’ll see.

              Also at least in professional politics in the US talking about far left is laughable from a Scandinavian perspective. Bernie and the Squad would be centrists here.

                Homegrove Absolutely, the US is shifted to the right, even compared to Canadian politics. That said, the far left is just as bat shit crazy as the far right, they’re just not quite as dangerous.

                  @Homegrove Get out of the echo chamber for a moment. Tell me how that clip blathering on about woke is going to help her win over the undecideds/soft Trumpers in those key swing states? Perhaps she’d be better advised to get out of the morning TV studios and go and see some factory workers or farmers and talk about unionised labour, jobs, workers rights etc. My bet is she would win.

                    alistair Tell me how that clip blathering on about woke is going to help her win over the undecideds/soft Trumpers in those key swing states?

                    …swing voters don’t vote every 4 years based on how good or bad clips are, you fucking melt

                        LT42 Says a notable psephologist. Found another accountant yet?

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                            alistair thats the comeback of a 13 year old girl, but ok. Not surprising in the least.

                                Along_the_Wire Somewhere around half of the American population watched trump in power for four years, watched him attempt to disavow a fair election, watched him become a convicted felon, and have decided they want to see more of that. The only difference between now and 2016 is that they’re walking into it fully aware of who they’re voting for.

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                                    alistair how does it hurt? People who get offended and scared by the word woke surely are not going to vote a black woman anyway.

                                      It’s funny how many people in my socials are surprised Kamala picked the right white guy. Democrats have been so bad at this for so long.

                                      303abuser around a quarter of the population voted for him and he still lost the popular vote. He also lost the popular vote in 2016. He was an unknown quantity in 2016 and people were willing to give him a shot. 8 years later, an insurrection down, multiple indictments, impeachments, convictions and fatigue from the lies and fear mongering should kill him off for good. His base aren’t going anywhere of course, but they are not 70M votes. Nowhere near.

                                          LT42 should

                                          Yes it should, but it’s going to be very close. The electoral collage and the insane gerrymandering that is allowed makes the popular vote a nearly useless statistic. The reality is that their elections are decided by a handful of swing states.

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                                              303abuser The electoral collage and the insane gerrymandering that is allowed makes the popular vote a nearly useless statistic.

                                              Which just confirms the whole process is a sham. Clinton had something like 2M more votes in 2016 and still lost.
                                              Anyway, the point being his total in 2020 will not be reached this time around and in those swing states Democrats have generally been cleaning up. Outside of the twitter alternate reality where plenty of idiots like to measure the race from, the Repubs are in dire trouble.