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hugopal That’s not necessarily true - e.g. you might enter a war because the status quo is under attack and you wish to defend it.

zackster Our current military endeavors are to protect shipping lanes. If that isn’t defending the status quo then idk what is

Yeah.

Dave.

Have THAT.

        Uhhhh look at me I’m Dave. Uuuuhh I’m fucking gay.

          Mad_Cyril both those scenarios validate Dave’s comment, both examples are from one sides perspective, ie defending the status quo, which means the other side in the war is trying to change the status quo?

              RichM Whilst this is a sensible point RIch, it doesn’t quite suit my use case requirements 🙄

                  RichM both those scenarios validate Dave’s comment

                  No they do not.

                  Dave’s comment was attempting to claim that there is a contradiction between a person being “well up for war” and supporting “the status quo”, a la Nikki Haley - this is false as you can be in favour of war only when it is needed to defend the status quo.

                  RichM both examples are from one sides perspective

                  Well durrrrr.

                  That doesn’t mean the scenarios don’t still demonstrate that it’s possible for a person to be both up for war and for maintaining the status quo. A person can continue to hold those views without them being at odds with each other. The perspective of the other side is not needed when evaluating the person in question’s attitude.

                        Hugo keeping us all honest since zzzzzzzzZzzz

                        hugopal It is not - don’t give it unjust credit.

                        Sorry @RichM , I take it all back.

                        Hope we can get over this and learn to see eye to eye again in the future 🫶

                            Rich looks a cunt. +1 to Dr. Palmer

                            Mad_Cyril we can work through this, just need to sit down and listen to Trisco Musak whilst holding hands

                              Can we add a 🇺🇦 to Stu’s user ID?

                              I am so embarrassed that I allowed myself to be guilted into voting for this.

                                zackster to be fair you had the choice of one known horrific president and one unknown shit president. So wasn’t a great choice to start with

                                  That bit Don did about Ron’s shoe lifts and how he looked like he was “walking on ice skates” was fucking hilarious.

                                  Think I’m beginning to miss ian

                                  He really was our Ron Desantis, wasn’t he

                                  Forgot about Q. That dude bellowing clearly didn’t.

                                  This is painful. If he would just fuck off the shit libs would have this thing in the bag.

                                    Measured and demure as always

                                    mono-stereo and the base chanting “four more years” in response to calls for a ceasefire does not look like a winning strategy to me.

                                      Joe, on the other hand, needs no editing

                                      Funny and terrifying at the same time these are, is there the obviously unedited source of these available?

                                      It sounds like someone has ramped up the same garbled effect ‘mouth at water level in a deep pool’.

                                        ehitach2 the Don one is most likely edited as Vic Berger posted it. That Joe one is absolutely real.

                                        On a related note: I’ve seen multiple MSNBC-brained boomers recently. All the type of people who think Don is a sexual predator and that Israel is totally cool and necessary. Every one of them has started telling me, unprompted, that they wish Joe would fuck off and how much they want a different candidate. Thats really not good for him. I still don’t think Don can win Pa again, but if there is some other path without it then I think he has a great shot. Not all, but some of the aforementioned boomers commented that Trump comes off as the more moderate of the two. That line right there is a Biden data gatherer’s worst nightmare.

                                            zackster Not all, but some of the aforementioned boomers commented that Trump comes off as the more moderate of the two.

                                            So they’re totally ill-informed? There’s no way Biden beats trump, your country is fucked and we’re right behind you.