Grimes Coachella DJ Set Appreciation Thread
I haven’t watched, or listened.
But it’s a total disgrace!
The worst thing about the whole debacle is a load of gatekeeping DJ’s on social media saying I told you so
mono-stereo A good engineer would of stayed up there and botched a workaround (ie give her a pair of cans and point at where the crossfader is
I don’t know why she’d been trying to use sync to begin with anyway - it’s not as if she was actually trying to mix any of the tracks together on beat.
mono-stereo , but fair play to her she carries on and attempts to explain the problem with a bit of humility
Yeah, though also after the first couple of times jumping on the mic to explain what was going on not sure she had to keep doing it between every single track.
nicksneddon She needs Phil from Digital DJ tips in her corner.
She’s a borderline r-word with only one good song. She can fuck right off.
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I don’t suppose most of you have ever heard about the only other time I think Grimes has ever done a streamed “DJ set”?
In 2013 she played at a Boiler Room show filmed at a pool party in Richie Hawtin’s Ibiza villa - yes you heard that right. She was just playing tunes from her laptop - including the infamous moment below.
Boiler Room deleted her set from Youtube a few days later, and the below is the only existing clip of her set online. It’s pretty baffling that the set got removed and has never been re-uploaded since; maybe at the time Boiler Room thought it was too uncool or not underground enough for their image, but if anything now it would be the reverse. Or maybe copyright issues? Regardless it would have had millions of views by now I’m sure. There have been lots of people who have tried to lobby Boiler Room to put it back online but to no success.
Richie Hawtin’s set from the end of the same party/Boiler Room stream is still online though and Grimes can be seen occasionally dancing in the background:
Looks like it’s more like 50,000. Seems like there was a real disconnect between the promoters and the festival attendees. Blur getting booed off stage and the Anime Singer not being able to appear in hologram form as two non Grimes examples.
I guess that’s the inevitable timeline when you overcharge, oversell, and the acts are mostly shit.
They are booking Blur and Will Smith for a bunch of zoomers who want to see Tyler the Creator. Bunch of Gen X idiots running it I would guess.
mono-stereo I dunno, I’ve just seen another video and she just doesn’t know what she’s doing at all. Rekordbox is a solid bit of kit - it might get the bpm wrong now and again, but I’ve had it happen maybe twice in years. She doesn’t know what she’s doing at all. She can’t even play a song unmixed it some parts. Maybe someone was being malicious, but I dunno about that.
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Along_the_Wire I’ve just seen another video and she just doesn’t know what she’s doing at all.
Oh it’s this 100%. She didn’t know how to use the CDJs and wasn’t familiar with the tunes. This is a person who was kept locked in Elon’s basement whilst being repeatedly impregnated. Add in her clear autism and it’s not a total shock that she would turn up unprepared and not think it would be an issue.
zackster Autism would’ve helped her, she would’ve obsessively prepared
Along_the_Wire Hugo that you?
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Along_the_Wire Rekordbox is a solid bit of kit - it might get the bpm wrong now and again, but I’ve had it happen maybe twice in years.
Again, as I explained above the likely issue is not with Rekordbox’s analysis per se - but rather that the tempo range in settings given for it to analyse the tunes was set as being too low/narrow, eg 80-140 bpm, meaning say a tune at 160 would not be marked as 160 but rather as 80.
Along_the_Wire Maybe someone was being malicious, but I dunno about that.
I doubt that as well, but whoever put the tunes in to Rekordbox for her missed something. It maybe would make sense if it had been her Tale of Us bf, as I doubt any of his tunes ever normally go high at all and so his default analysis settings could have had the narrow tempo range.
zackster She didn’t know how to use the CDJs and wasn’t familiar with the tunes.
Yeah she doesn’t know how to use the CDJs, but around half of the tunes were hers.
hugopal Yeah, maybe, but there’s no reason to have a restrictive bpm range is there? I don’t see the point, even if you mix in a restrictive bpm range like Tale of Us maybe does. Even so, it’s still shite, she should’ve at least taken a few minutes to run through some bits to check - going in that cold is absurd given the circumstance ie 50,000 people and not have a clue how to DJ
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Along_the_Wire Yeah, maybe, but there’s no reason to have a restrictive bpm range is there?
I dont have Rekordbox to check myself, but I saw somewhere that supposedly the factory default setting is 75-155pm.
Along_the_Wire she should’ve at least taken a few minutes to run through some bits to check
Sure.
I thought autism was a super power?
hugopal I have tunes with 175bpm in my library and they sit there as that and I haven’t touched the setting. Anyway, it’s possible that it was changed - she kept talking about how shit she was at math, but fuck me, dividing numbers by 2 is only just beyond my mentally disabled brother.
Are Grant and Hugo riffing???
Mad_Cyril it appears we are with neither protagonist being a cunt. Scones.
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Along_the_Wire she kept talking about how shit she was at math, but fuck me, dividing numbers by 2 is only just beyond my mentally disabled brother
That’s no way to talk about our Ed, Granto - he’s just a bit slow is all.
But if she had been trying initially to not just play the track at say it’s original 160 tempo, but rather to match it to an outgoing track’s tempo then it may have been a tad more tricky. That could be why at the end she gave up trying to blend at all and just played the tracks one after the other. Again just speculating.
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nicksneddon Exactly. No one seemed to mind most of the old Prog DJ’s using pro tools to stich a mix CD together.
mono-stereo We were too fucked back then.
While I appreciate that I can still beat match and mix, I do feel a bit ‘who the fuck cares’ more often than not.
Believe it was DJ Harvey who instilled this a couple years back.
That being said, every time zackster puts one of his bedroom DJ reels up on Instagram, my only instinct is to think ‘can this fucker mix or not’.
zackster She’s a borderline r-word with only one good song. She can fuck right off.
Lol.. such an open mind you have. You’re green with envy obviously Zacky
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zackster genesis
That is one of my favourites of hers; fair play that you at least plumped for that over Oblivion which I do also like but didn’t listen to as much.
But have you even heard some of her other, darker old stuff? eg:
and:
Aside from Genesis this was also my favourite of her more poppy big singles:
This makes perfect sense to me
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Maybe I’m softening up, but I absolutely loved this. And the woman seems to know what she’s doing with all her gear.
And this was good fun too.
Call me crazy, but I’d much rather have these production skills and this ability for live performances, than being a pro at beating matching two tunes together (and then being judged by a bunch of no marks).
still that coachella set is indeed horrific scenes.
Along_the_Wire it appears we are with neither protagonist being a cunt. Scones.
The eye of the storm!!
I was going to listen to her music and then rhouses said he likes it. I now know I need not bother.
If you are playing to 50k people and outsourcing the basics you deserve everything you get.
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benson I was going to listen to her music and then rhouses said he likes it. I now know I need not bother.
Think of it as a case whereby a broken clock is still correct twice a day.
Start with the below, then check out the three tracks in my post above.
If you bother doing any further research you can readily ignore anything she’s made post-2015.