VR46 303 stated let’s keep funding Ukraine to fight and sanction Russia, has that worked so far?

Pretty fucking well, all things considered, from the American perspective. For a tiny fraction of their budget, they’ve helped the Ukraine defend against Russia for 3 years, shown how weak the Russian military is, and devastated the Russian economy. It’s also demonstrated to China that invading Taiwan maybe not the best idea and has held their geo-political influence.

Trump’s pro-Russia intervention has undermined all of that and will only serve to strengthen the BRICS nations. This is the biggest shift in global power in 80 years.

Maybe if you’re so concerned about the loss of life, you should direct your ire where it belongs. This is Putin’s doing, now with the support of the Americans.

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      • VVR46

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        303abuser it’s Putin doing but yet again, you can’t end this without talking. That goes for any war, I’ll say again we put up with ex terrorists in our government just so there was peace so sometimes concessions have to be made that people don’t like.

        Trump being secret agent and Russia connections has been debunked. If I was spreading conspiracies yous would be quick to tell me. Russia aren’t on their knees far from it, if they where I’d say continue until they are defeated.

            VR46 Russia is in a full war time economy, what’s the conspiracy? And show me where I said diplomacy isn’t necessary.

            Do you think the Americans aren’t getting value for the money they spent? Are you under the impression that their defense budget since ww2 was forced on them externally and not part of a dedicated national plan?

              There’s some nonsense being spouted in this thread, and not all of it from VR46.

              Trump first term was a fiasco but I’d give him some credit for the Abraham Accords

              • LT42 replied to this.

                bosstrabs Please can someone do a meme of a FEWMIN Homegrove getting bombs landing all around him while he’s trying to vacuum?

                mono-stereo

                Amps There’s enough photos of H to train the model properly. Downvote from me.

                I know Amps, I thought the same thing. So:
                …

                        • LT42

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                          alistair I’d give him some credit for the Abraham Accords

                          Taken from a Reuters article - as per Sudan’s normalising of relations with Israel “As part of the agreement, the US removed Sudan from its list of state sponsors of terrorism and gave them a US$1.2 billion loan.”

                          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sudan-usa-mnuchin/u-s-treasury-signs-loan-deal-to-clear-sudans-1-2-billion-world-bank-arrears-idUSKBN29B2J3/

                          https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/2170482/us-treasury-removing-sudan-terror-list-matter-time?_wrapper_format=html&page=2

                          I’d give him some credit for being good at coercing people, Ali, or as he used to say himself “forcing them to lose.” Be honest, are those accords really about peace in the Middle East and Arab-Israeli “normalisation”? The deal is between Israel, Bahrain and fucking DUBAI by the way.

                          A peace deal with a giant golden name across the top that says TRUMP

                            • VVR46

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                              Hear me now rude boy!

                              Was driving home there and heard a clip on Radio 2 of how trump is talking to Zelenskyy

                              It did not sound good

                                NasserAlazzawi
                                I heard some of it on LBC.
                                It sounded like trump & Vance were bullying him.

                                  • erik

                                    • Post #119

                                    NasserAlazzawi that whole minerals deal is extortion, nothing more

                                      What a disgraceful press conference that was in the Oval Office - Trump and Vance? Fuck me.

                                        ……we’re only a month or so into this guy . Gonna be a long 4yrs if the world doesn’t descend into The Purge by then

                                        Along_the_Wire just watched the ‘highlights’. Was like watching an episode of Grange Hill. Wankers.

                                          • LT42

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                                            Along_the_Wire I’ve never seen anything like that before in my life. I’m trying to get my head around it.

                                                LT42 I can’t think of anything to compare it with. Just incredible.

                                                    • VVR46

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                                                      Full meeting, wasn’t as heated as the snippets. Trump and Vance out of order but Zeleniskey wasn’t without some blame either for the way it went.