All of this could have been avoided if Zelensky had said thank you.
Trump
Millsy the deal with Putin is already done - Zelensky has put a fly in the ointment by not playing ball - it’s so painfully obvious and set up. That Friday press confeeence was like something from Jerry Springer
What would have been foolish and a conflict of interest would be to continue transferring $50bn a year into perpetuating an unwinnable conflict on foreign soil while the rich countries on that continent sit back and cheer them on.
If they sign a deal to extract the rare earths then you have an alignment of interests - a quid pro quo - that allows the US to justify their ongoing involvement in keeping the peace on another continent
Millsy its blackmail, simple
- Edited
Millsy Why do we need a America for everything many would like the US to fuck off, it is a European war did you really expect the funding to go on indefinitely. Defence spending is now on the cards again within Europe and they finally see the importance again. Russia before the war had an economy the size of Italy, what is it now? Realistically UK, France and Germany should be able to handle Russia. If peace is achieved the defence spending across Europe will hopefully scare him off trying it again and hopefully he just dies off. I do however still expect a peace deal in which US backs European security, and if there are US citizens there for the minerals, Putin will realise that if he attacks again there will be ww3. All is not lost even though many outlets are looking to up the rhetoric.
1.6B deal for missiles out of Belfast is 2.5% of our gdp its huge.
I just read some reports that stated no EU leader or Zelensky himself has been told that the aid is cut and that it’s business as normal. The feeling right now is that Trump has floated it with the media and his “followers” to put pressure on Zelensky to take the minerals deal. The actions of a fucking brat. Please God make it backfire on him.
- Edited
Mad_Cyril Have you ever tried to change the delivery date on your Evri parcel LT!
Takes fucking ages
Good bants but Hugo will be along to kick it into the weeds soon!
"actually, it’s quite simple these days, you just follow these steps:
Visit the Evri tracking page.
Enter the 16-character parcel tracking code provided by the sender.
Input your delivery postcode.
Select from a number of options."
VR46 and if there are US citizens there for the minerals
Funky, do better in learning how it all works first. The US involvment in the minerals deal is to invest in Ukrainian mining companies which will favour the US market. Also, it takes upwards of 18 years for a mine to “mature”. This is a very long investment deal, it has nothing to do with putting US citizens in there to work.
Funky?
FLUNK-y more like!
This whole deal looks like a wet blanket when you really dig. First off it seems there has been no talk between the relevant parties on any cut off of aid. Secondly, mining companies and investors have a very thin risk assessment and locking in a 20-30 year deal on minerals, considering a lot of the territory is in the Donbas, looks extremely dodgy and those investors would be expected to run a mile. We only have to look at another failed Trump deal back in 2017 to see the evidence..
this “deal” also fell through because investors didn’t want to vapourise cash to appease a wild goose chase by Trump, nevermind the security guarantees.