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vinnyt77

You didn’t really say if you were pro removing the glazers who are clearly the scape goats for lack of success. But a good reply all the same, It’s a convenient myth that the Glazers are solely responsible.
Dimbo fans outside the stadium believing they are lining billionaires pockets with a few hundred quid is illinformed and or completely delusional and from watching the news and listening to them getting interviewed that was what they all believed to be the case.
There wouldnt be a single complaint about how rich they were or how they were lining their pockets if they were top and just won the treble last season.

    Cankles-McJeggings think @vinnyt77 has put it well into words. It’s a shared responsibility for sure and something people like Woodward and the players who have come, gone and or stayed have to answer for. But when you have owners who are a million miles away from the club (emotionally and litereally), just skimming it for profit, it shows a level of disrespect that’ll feed down the line. Hence forth why you get people like Pogba who keep coming for the money and trotting off when the shit hits the fan. There has to be passion and commitment to the cause from top to bottom. The Glazers offer none of that.

      Cankles-McJeggings For the avoidance of doubt, yes - I’m in favour of removing the Glazers. I don’t hold them fully accountable, but I think their style of ownership over the past 15 years is a significant part of the reason for Utd’s decline. It’s just too simplistic to lay it all on them. Yes, they saddled the club with £600m of debt, which cost £500m to service over a ten year period. Had Utd not had transfer funds during those ten years, then yeah - they’d be on the hook. Not the case though. The club has spent poorly, Underinvested in the club’s facilities, and allowed the academy system to falter.

      In terms of ‘other’ scapegoats - Woodward’s gone, and Arnold seems to be better. The managers that under performed have gone. Ten Hag has started the lengthy clear-out of deadwood from the team, and will hopefully be given the time to fix some of the inherent problems with the squad.

      And before it’s suggested that I have Ferguson tinted spectacles, it’s notable that some of the poor player investment started in the last few years of his tenure at the club. Smalling, Jones, Bébé, Young, Zaha - all recruited by Bacon Face, and they represent some of the high spots of our transfer activity in the past 10 years. Woeful.

        Fair response. You do not speak the same language or seem cut from the same cloth as the green and goldens who frequent interviews, forums and hys.

          seanc80

          😂 Its fucking definitely off side. That’s the official var shot from the game . I paused it and screenshot it.

          Cankles-McJeggings Hopefully not. Any club has its share of dipshit cunts. Utd’s just seem to make it on to TV more regularly and more vociferously than others at the moment…

          Wally christ, he looks like someone from Oz who shoots kangaroos and fucks his sister. Probably the other way round too.

          alistair
          Good to see you back, did you get locked out of your account last night?

          Gordon for 60mil 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

          That’s not just ridiculous that fucking embarrassing. Chelsea need fucking shooting.

          vinnyt77 Fair points. I think we have a tendancy to over intellectualise the game. Maybe the simple fact is that the fans have unrealistic expectations after years of dominance. The game moves on, rivals catch up and a clubs history has no real bearing on future performance.

          nicksneddon

          Just said on talk sport they are prepared to go to 60mil and Gordon has now asked to leave. Everton are said to not be standing in his way so I guess it’s a done deal.
          Absolutely preposterous. Chelsea deserve to be flogged for this shit.

          Gordon not an upgrade on the players they’re trying to flog, like Ziyech.

          If they signed him for 35 million, it would be a bananas move never mind 60 mil