Henry have you done shiretoko in hokkaido? There’s a beautiful onsen spa in Kushiro, plan is to fly into closest airport to Shiretoko, road trip and some trails in that area for two days. And drive down to Kushiro.

Is Sapporo worth visiting? Wondering if we should just fly in there and explore and then drive to Kushiro for the onsen experience.

      Wasily oooh this is perfect brother, just what im looking for. That eel place looks banging. Thanks for the share.

        rhouses I was in Abashiri in December, which is fairly close. But snow ruled me getting on to Shiretoko.
        It’s probably the remotest part of one of the main Islands. Pretty much untouched. You can fly from Tokyo to Memanbetsu really cheap using a JAL Explorer Pass (Google for the JAL) site. You could start your car journey from there and then once Shiretoko has been done head south to Daisetsuzan Park. Then visit and fly back from Sapporo.

            Wasily I did a work sabbatical a few years ago and spent 3 months travelling around SE Asia with the missus. We spent a month in the Philippines and some of the islands there are amazing. The beach at Boracay is easily the best beach I’ve ever been too. Would love to head back that way one day.

                I don’t know why people are contributing to this minger of a thread.

                It’s just AN EXCUSE FOR RHOUSES’ VERBAL DIARRHEA.

                Ooh look at me, I’m going to Japan.

                Blah blah blah blah this was fire blah blah blah some shit about food blah blah Uniqlo even better in its home country blah blah I did a turd the size of an orca and these magical Japanese toilets flushed it first go!

                  bosstrabs lol. I’m actually looking forward to his travelogue. An instagram photo story featuring him being cut from one of those overnight sleeper pods using several fire crews and the jaws of life would make my year.

                      RichM The beach at Boracay is easily the best beach I’ve ever been too

                      I went there the year they shut it - it was disgusting. Absolutely gutted as was expecting what you’d described.

                        Millsy I’m actually looking forward to his travelogue

                        I’m sure his travel log will be of ample size.

                          bosstrabs
                          ‘Japanese honeys’ is my banker on the RDogg bingo card

                            RichM Getting strong wiffs of Dermo 👃

                              bosstrabs jealousy rearing its ugly head. Was waiting to post in june, but my dad wants the full itinerary in place, hotel bookings and the visa, 3 months in advance.

                                  Henry i might skip shiretoko and save it for another time. Land in sapporo, spend the day there and drive across to kushiro with a one night stop in obihiro. Obhiro worth a visit? Reading that train ride there from sapporo will be quite scenic also.

                                      rhouses jealousy rearing its ugly head. Was waiting to post in june, but my dad wants the full itinerary in place, hotel bookings and the visa, 3 months in advance.

                                      The sin here would be ‘envy’ not ‘jealousy’ actually.

                                      But yours is ‘GLUTTONY’

                                          bosstrabs ill probably lose weight on this trip with all the walking and no ganj for two weeks.

                                            rhouses
                                            Sapporo. Yes
                                            Obihiro. No
                                            Kushiro. An even bigger no

                                            I made the mistake of staying 5 nights in Kushiro. Absolutely nothing there. Lots of crumbling empty buildings that have been abandoned post early 90s. Obihiro. Again very little to see.
                                            To be honest, the train journey is nothing special. For more scenic routes, you are better sticking to routes to Takayama in Gifu. Or maybe Takamatsu to Kochi on the island of Shikoku.

                                                Top of my list of places to visit. Had a v cool trip planned in 2020 which got killed by COVID, and haven’t got around to rearranging yet.

                                                We’d planned to spend a week in Hokkaido. Couple of days in Sapporo, a couple of days at a high end onsen in the mountains in Niseko (e.g. https://www.mokunosho.com/en/), and a couple of days in the East of the island (Shiretoko, Tsurui, Kiritappu, Kitoushi) looking at wildlife.

                                                  vinnyt77

                                                  vinnyt77 Cannot fault that itinerary Vinny. You’ll have great time.

                                                      Henry fack you just killed my hokkaido trip. lol. ill definitely fly into sapporo and spend the night there. Ill need to figure two-three more nights. Let me look up gifu. The trails and hiking will need to be chill, dad is 75.

                                                      Heart was set on Kushiro because the onsen spa looked amazing (La Vista) - right in the middle of a forest with a river running through it. Fox and deer coming right to the room. Everyone raving about the set meals. Had no plans of leaving the property, thought it would be a nice way to end the hokkaido leg.

                                                          rhouses Sorry man! Niseko would be a better bet for an onsen as it’s fairly close to Sapporo. The train trip to Takayama can be done in 4 hours. Stay the night there then head on somewhere else.

                                                          If you are thinking of getting the rail pass, don’t! The price has gone up massively. I would recommend inland flights to Sapporo using the JAL Explorer Pass site. For train tickets, get there early as the queues have become horrific now that people are no longer getting the rail pass.