IndustryStandard Suppose time is your friend, the longer it goes the closer we are to fully understanding transmission, safety and getting a vaccine. This piece of work seems promising.

I kind of equate our lack of understanding of this whole thing to what happened in the 1980s when the AIDS crisis happened. There was all sorts of shit being bandied about in terms of how you could get it, transmit it, etc. because no one had a firm grasp on the science behind it. Like COVID-19, the science was ever-expanding and evolving and our understanding is as well.

The problem we face is there seems to be so many counter-intuitive directives being given by governments that further complicate an already complex situation.

    They aren’t comparable at all Loops. We’re in economic Armageddon and people are dying because someone breathed near them

      Millsy Any jobs going at RIM?

      Always mate. They’re one of the leading IT security companies in the world and they’re actually doing quite well with their shift into artificial intelligence and the like. There’s even talk of them making another phone, which if they do will be the best phone on earth as you well know! 😉

      I still rock a BlackBerry Motion.

      loopdokter the unknown, the learning, the trying to understand peoples behavior vs your self preservation has been tough. Maybe people are so used to having answers immediately, what with the internet/Google etc, having this mysterious killer disease is making them behave in irrational ways.

        Along_the_Wire They aren’t comparable at all Loops. We’re in economic Armageddon and people are dying because someone breathed near them

        Not on the same scale, but certainly with the amount of uncertainty, finger pointing, paranoia, not enough paranoia, conspiracy theories, media attention, government ineptitude, etc. there is.

        We obviously haven’t experienced something like this in our lifetimes, but the AIDS crisis was mass hysteria, government incompetence and a lot of people running scared on levels not seen before; all with ever evolving science that further complicated people’s reactions.

        Don’t forget people used to be afraid to sit on toilet seats because of HIV.

          IndustryStandard

          Absolutely spot on.

          I went shopping with my little fella today. We have to wear masks in enclosed spaces province-wide. Other than that, people clearly don’t give a fuck and aren’t taking nearly the same precautions as they were before.

          I remember early doors during all of this when going grocery shopping was like everyone was going to try and stab you, so people did their best to avoid you in the aisles. That’s gone. I fear that complacency is only going to get much worse because people have flat out had enough of the restrictions…

          Don’t even get me started on the tin foil hat crew either. :/

          Bet Loopy does a cracking rendition of Knees Up Mother Brown!

          loopdokter Maybe in Canada people were still scared to sit on a toilet seat, but that was quickly debunked this end. Ultimately, if you and whoever you were being fucked by wore a condom, you didn’t get it. I get their are exceptions to that rule with needles, but even then you can set some simple rules up.

          I don’t recall having an entire year of holidays and trips away, or ad revenues going off a fucking cliff because of AIDS either.

          From any docs I’ve watched on AIDS it seems it really only terrorised the Gay community, the largest majority of society were completely ambivalent as it didn’t affect them. AIDS is even lower on the scale than Ebola I would say. I remember there being genuine panic when there was rumours it had entered the country.

          Nothing is comparable to Covid in around 100 years, not just because of the disease but because of the economic impact, as Grant mentioned. Even the lockdown part was mental when you think about it, not able to leave your house? Think about that for a second. There’s never been anything close to that.

            LT42
            I saw a documentary on Netflix I believe & how aids effected the Porn industry as well.

            6 days later

            LT42 Nothing is comparable to Covid in around 100 years, not just because of the disease but because of the economic impact, as Grant mentioned. Even the lockdown part was mental when you think about it, not able to leave your house? Think about that for a second. There’s never been anything close to that.

            It’s the closest thing I can think of in terms of the level of people being scared. Even locally when SARS was kicking off (behind China Toronto was the largest affected area) this doesn’t even come close.

            I just meant there are some parallels in terms of mixed messaging, fear, science changing rapidly, etc. Obviously this pandemic is much greater in terms of scale and outright effect it’s having on people, economies, etc.

            The other more cynical part of me wonders (as horrible as it may be) if this is nature’s way of righting overpopulation?

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              loopdokter Overpopulation. Bill Gates. Autism. Globalists. AIDS. Jumpers for Goalposts. The list goes on.

              Maybe it’s nature’s way of telling people not to eat wild animals from wet markets or cut down rainforests or work in meat processing plants.

              Back during the height of Prog, when everyone were on the bangers, were was Covid then I ask? Some may call that a coincidence. I don’t.

                Coronavirus is basically Guy J’s fault.

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                  Smallman1 good shout. And Hernan was the superspreader as soon as he started banging out 5hr sets.

                  LT42 Back during the height of Prog, when everyone were on the bangers, were was Covid then I ask? Some may call that a coincidence. I don’t.

                  So what you’re saying is that I should go back to my incessant blagging, dribbling, off my face old self instead of just my incessant blagging and name dropping?

                  Here I was thinking my previous behaviour wasn’t a good look and was partially why I never got on the cover of DJ Mag or Mixmag.

                  Read the Bedrock facemask thread on S&D groupies FB page if you’re feeling blue. It’ll lighten your mood.