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The COVID-19 Blues
Along_the_Wire yeah been there mate. Not fun but inevitable most of tne time. I have also witnessed union walk outs. Hang i there chief.
Grim. Sorry to hear that Grant. What a cunt of a responsibility and completely destroys personal friendships
I’m coming towards the end of recruiting for a role in my team at the mo. All the candidates I spoke to have been made redundant in the past few weeks. Had to tell one guy this morning that he wasn’t successful at interview, he was gutted. Asked me to call him if any of the other choices knock me back. Really felt for the guy, it sounds very grim in the market at the moment
gcw Horrible to say but its only going to get worse ….. this winter is going to be very tough. Personally have felt pretty down this week vs this whole saga. Lockdown in March was scary but simple. Just stay in and order in. Everyone was in it together and you saw numbers go down and lockdown eased……there was light at the end of the tunnel.
This second wave has been a bit of a mind fuck, people against each other due to conflicting information and risk averseness, the UK Govt being all over the place regarding direction, worrying about “at risk” loved ones overseas…..and the obvious economic climate.
Suppose time is your friend, the longer it goes the closer we are to fully understanding transmission, safety and getting a vaccine. This piece of work seems promising.
If we can count out certain scenarios and put lifecycles around airborne particles we could eliminate some scenarios and make things safer - fingers crossed. Data should be available within a couple of weeks.
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gcw I’m coming towards the end of recruiting for a role in my team at the mo. All the candidates I spoke to have been made redundant in the past few weeks. Had to tell one guy this morning that he wasn’t successful at interview, he was gutted. Asked me to call him if any of the other choices knock me back. Really felt for the guy, it sounds very grim in the market at the moment
I’m happy that I’m pulling in an income and generally work in a rather recession/depression safe industry in IT, but the rates at which things were paying are no longer applicable. I haven’t fully thrown myself back out into the job market to see if I can land something better, but I feel like I should try to get myself in a better economical shape.
I enjoy the fact that I don’t have the same stipulations of working in an office, but at the same time I enjoy being challenged and this gig isn’t it.
Any jobs going at RIM?
IndustryStandard Suppose time is your friend, the longer it goes the closer we are to fully understanding transmission, safety and getting a vaccine. This piece of work seems promising.
I kind of equate our lack of understanding of this whole thing to what happened in the 1980s when the AIDS crisis happened. There was all sorts of shit being bandied about in terms of how you could get it, transmit it, etc. because no one had a firm grasp on the science behind it. Like COVID-19, the science was ever-expanding and evolving and our understanding is as well.
The problem we face is there seems to be so many counter-intuitive directives being given by governments that further complicate an already complex situation.
They aren’t comparable at all Loops. We’re in economic Armageddon and people are dying because someone breathed near them
Millsy Any jobs going at RIM?
Always mate. They’re one of the leading IT security companies in the world and they’re actually doing quite well with their shift into artificial intelligence and the like. There’s even talk of them making another phone, which if they do will be the best phone on earth as you well know! 
I still rock a BlackBerry Motion.
loopdokter the unknown, the learning, the trying to understand peoples behavior vs your self preservation has been tough. Maybe people are so used to having answers immediately, what with the internet/Google etc, having this mysterious killer disease is making them behave in irrational ways.
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Along_the_Wire They aren’t comparable at all Loops. We’re in economic Armageddon and people are dying because someone breathed near them
Not on the same scale, but certainly with the amount of uncertainty, finger pointing, paranoia, not enough paranoia, conspiracy theories, media attention, government ineptitude, etc. there is.
We obviously haven’t experienced something like this in our lifetimes, but the AIDS crisis was mass hysteria, government incompetence and a lot of people running scared on levels not seen before; all with ever evolving science that further complicated people’s reactions.
Don’t forget people used to be afraid to sit on toilet seats because of HIV.
Absolutely spot on.
I went shopping with my little fella today. We have to wear masks in enclosed spaces province-wide. Other than that, people clearly don’t give a fuck and aren’t taking nearly the same precautions as they were before.
I remember early doors during all of this when going grocery shopping was like everyone was going to try and stab you, so people did their best to avoid you in the aisles. That’s gone. I fear that complacency is only going to get much worse because people have flat out had enough of the restrictions…
Don’t even get me started on the tin foil hat crew either. :/
Bet Loopy does a cracking rendition of Knees Up Mother Brown!
All together now…
loopdokter Maybe in Canada people were still scared to sit on a toilet seat, but that was quickly debunked this end. Ultimately, if you and whoever you were being fucked by wore a condom, you didn’t get it. I get their are exceptions to that rule with needles, but even then you can set some simple rules up.
I don’t recall having an entire year of holidays and trips away, or ad revenues going off a fucking cliff because of AIDS either.
From any docs I’ve watched on AIDS it seems it really only terrorised the Gay community, the largest majority of society were completely ambivalent as it didn’t affect them. AIDS is even lower on the scale than Ebola I would say. I remember there being genuine panic when there was rumours it had entered the country.
Nothing is comparable to Covid in around 100 years, not just because of the disease but because of the economic impact, as Grant mentioned. Even the lockdown part was mental when you think about it, not able to leave your house? Think about that for a second. There’s never been anything close to that.
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LT42 Nothing is comparable to Covid in around 100 years, not just because of the disease but because of the economic impact, as Grant mentioned. Even the lockdown part was mental when you think about it, not able to leave your house? Think about that for a second. There’s never been anything close to that.
It’s the closest thing I can think of in terms of the level of people being scared. Even locally when SARS was kicking off (behind China Toronto was the largest affected area) this doesn’t even come close.
I just meant there are some parallels in terms of mixed messaging, fear, science changing rapidly, etc. Obviously this pandemic is much greater in terms of scale and outright effect it’s having on people, economies, etc.
The other more cynical part of me wonders (as horrible as it may be) if this is nature’s way of righting overpopulation?
loopdokter Overpopulation. Bill Gates. Autism. Globalists. AIDS. Jumpers for Goalposts. The list goes on.