The General Covid19 Thread
hugopal Unfortunately, I don’t disagree that the death rate is greatly improved. My point about Fauci being a lying shitcunt piece of fucking shit is based around the fact that he was the same mouth piece warning about the danger that the a symptomatic posed to the high risk community. He kept saying this well after vaccines were widely available. The only thing that changed his tune was that the CEO of Delta threw a massive fit that no one would be working in the airports to plunge the jug hooters’ tampons and elephant shits down the toilets.
The #INSIGHT in this thread today is SEARING MY FUCKING EYEBROWS OFF.
Give it a rest you BERKS, things change
Good news.
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303abuser there are such things as being too cautious and risk averse.
England in being more brave in opening up earlier and avoiding further lockdowns is now reaping big dividends. Meanwhile continental Europe has completely fucked itself my being more “cautious” and delaying, which rather just had the knock-on effect of pushing the more dangerous Delta cases back to the winter.
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303abuser so you’re saying that restrictions are helpful at flattening the curve and capable of reducing the load on stressed healthcare systems?
Are you Cathy Newman?!
At best they partly delay the inevitable. However, while also potentially causing potentially more life years lost than they save, and also generally fucking up people’s lives and livelihoods, and shifting humongous costs with zero benefits to younger generations.
There is and was excessive panic every winter about supposed over-burdened health systems every winter with flu. However, the health system should exist to save lives; society shouldn’t be destroyed to just ease things for the health system.
hugopal Are you Cathy Newman?!
no idea who that is.
hugopal At best they partly delay the inevitable.
yep, that’s the point. delay to keep hospitalizations low enough to continue regular care and procedures along side covid treatment.
hugopal There is and was excessive panic every winter about supposed over-burdened health systems every winter with flu.
are you referring to any particular place? i’ve never seen that here, not once ever.
You don’t say
Oh good grief. Fauci doesn’t make these decisions on his own, in some weird vacuum. He’s just the messenger.
We were going to move to 5 days either way, if the NIH and CDC were on board or not. And, yes, part of the motivation is economic given the safety net of additional unemployment is no longer in place. It’s not to help businesses out, but hourly employees. People were also avoiding getting tested ’cause they didn’t want to lose work. That’s not ideal. Is it perfect? Nothing about any of this is and it’s a moving target, but we have to make compromises. The data we have so far says vaccinated and asympotmatic don’t pose much risk and this variant has a shorter incubation period. So the call was made.
For the places with lower vaccination rates, those fucking people aren’t going to isolate anyway so whatever. They have shown that they don’t care - well, until they show up at the hospital.
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303abuser no idea who that is.
UK news journalist who conducted one of the most painfully embarrassing, abysmal interviews (from an interviewer’s perspective ) in our TV history.
303abuser yep, that’s the point. delay to keep hospitalizations low enough to continue regular care and procedures along side covid treatment.
Lol:
“to keep hospitalizations low enough to continue regular care and procedures along side covid treatment.”
like fuck is that what they’ve been doing, you disingenuous prick. Look at the years being lost to delayed cancer screenings and treatments from excessive lockdowns.
And as I said, even then they only “partly” kick the can down the road, and sometimes they fail at even doing that - for instance Wales’ two week “circuit breaker” lockdown last year did absolutely bugger -all.
Ultimately, they create more problems than they solve, and they cost far more than is justified.
303abuser are you referring to any particular place? i’ve never seen that here, not once ever.
And it’s surely not just a UK meme.
hugopal mask mandates and social restrictions have a very clear, positive impact on hospitalizations/icu admissions. i’m not sure how it’s disingenuous to assert that fact. you can argue that some implementations have been better or worse than others, but we’re better off globally now than had we done nothing and just let covid run it’s course.
and i still have no idea what you’re talking about regarding a panic around hospitalization number resulting from the flu. guardian headlines aren’t healthcare data.
jonattonyeah I didn’t say he came up with it on his own. He was told to do it just like he was told to lie about not needing a mask. He is too busy working on the next scamdemic to concoct his own draconian back to work policies.
