zackster Thats because the ModeRNA actually works mate

Is the right answer!

Off to Phonox tomorrow for a Palms Trax masterclass.

I am defo getting Covid.

    Smallman1 have fun, hoping that Hydra at Drumsheds will still be on in a fortnight 🤞

    So before you conclude that Omicron is going to fizzle out… the past week cases have been doubling every couple of days in South Africa … and the following link (page 3) shows hospitalisations - the pick up (from a low base) is way more rapid than for previous strains. 33% of hospitalisations have been severe vs 66% for the delta wave. So even though the strain looks likely to be milder in terms of probability of severe illness and death, because of high transmissibility we might end up with a lot more cases than for delta and as many deaths… anyway, it’s hard to know at this stage how things will pan out but I wouldn’t dismiss its potential impact yet.

    https://www.nicd.ac.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Datcov19_National_Export-20211203.pdf

    This guy has some really interesting insights - recommend listening .. his big concern is the reports about babies falling ill for to Omicron… and, he says, if that’s the case that will have a big impact on the way the West looks at and deals with the strain:

    Along_the_Wire

    That’s probably what is also fuelling the steps currently being taken by countries like Germany. I.e. if the unvaccinated are still unwilling to get the vaccine – even though it could result in their death and that of others – countries will increasingly begin to favour measures that will seek to appeal to the selfish outlook of the unvaccinated through the use of incentives like fines and barring them from participating in society. I imagine other countries will be watching to see what happens, and if successful, they will also start adopting the same. It will all be relative the extent of the exasperation of each country with sections of society that prevent the majority from progressing and how you persuade people who care more about what they have read on social media than they do about other people.

      whatever none of that explains the step taken by Germany to close clubs even to the vaccinated (plus even with a test and reduced capacity).

        whatever following on from what you’re talking about here, did you see what Greece are supposedly going to be doing?

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-30/greece-to-impose-monthly-fines-on-unvaccinated-people-over-60

        "Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis announced mandatory Covid-19 vaccination for all Greeks above 60 years of age before a cabinet meeting in Athens on Tuesday, in an effort to tackle the new omicron variation threat ahead of the festive season.

        Those who refuse to get vaccinated will have to pay a monthly fine of 100 euros ($114) for each month they don’t get jabbed, starting on Jan. 16, according to Mitsotakis. The penalty will be imposed by the tax authorities directly to those who haven’t been inoculated and the funds collected will be given to Greek hospitals fighting the pandemic.

        “It is not a punishment,” Mitsotakis said. “I would say it is a health fee.”"

          hugopal

          It is explained with reference to my post before that, which is that where it concerns Covid, you have to apply measures to society as a whole (think LT42 said ’you can’t compartmentalise). That’s because it doesn’t work if you only apply restrictions to the unvaccinated. Like it or not, we are all in it together, and in this particular case, the success of our society is contingent on what we do together (or don’t, as the case may be). Is it possible that the case of the German policy on club admissions might be less favourable for some people? Possibly, yes. Is that a reason to not make difficult objective decisions that are oriented towards ridding us of the virus? Definitely not.

            hugopal

            Thanks for the link. Yes, that was what I was referring to when I mentioned about fines and other ‘incentives’ that other countries might starting using. Although I might be mixing Germany and Greece up with what they are doing respectively.

            Smallman1 Hugo and whatever are dangerously close to being struck off the afters list.

            Probably feel like teenage girls not invited to Prince Andrew’s do @ Pizza Express

              No American Hots at mine.

              And that’s with Zackster present.

              Oi oI!

              Smallman1

              Not sure I fancy an afters with CD1 of GU13 on repeat all night.

              007 and 017 will also feature.

              As well as 009 (both discs)

                Mad_Cyril

                Will probably be able to tell my grandchildren how my life could have taken a very different path were it not for the good fortune of being barred from Ed’s afters.

                  Smallman1

                  Both discs? That sounds unequitable. Might spark some heated discussions.