The General Covid19 Thread

LT42

C_J The Yanks have been looting Venezuela since the 50s. They backed Jiminez and in turn he let the Yanks roll in and fleece the place. The foundations have been there for decades, and the rot has been in the wood for that long. They were more successful there than Cuba.

C_J

Our middle-class Venezuelan friends don’t blame the US for their problems, they blame the state. They have came close to starvation and are moving to the US this year.

LT42

C_J Not surprising, they prob love America and want to be American. There’s no helping those people.

My original point was that the US have made it impossible for that country to thrive regardless of who was in charge. Its a conundrum for most developing nations, get in bed with the devil and sell your country out for prosperity or say fuck the oppressor, stick to your principles and let your country go to shit anyway.

There were middle class in America who blamed Obama for the crash in 2008, not the hedge funds and bankers on Wall St, the middle classes seem very confused at the best of times.

303abuser

LT42 My original point was that the US have made it impossible for that country to thrive regardless of who was in charge. Its a conundrum for most developing nations, get in bed with the devil and sell your country out for prosperity or say fuck the oppressor, stick to your principles and let your country go to shit anyway.

exactly. look at what the americans and the IMF did to jamaica as another shining example.

C_J

Branding large sections of society as one homogenous stereotype is a bit of a red flag mate. Imo.

LT42

C_J “branding” lol

I get a pass anyway, CJ, I’m Irish.

Jules72

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8852159/The-video-world-longed-Covid-vaccines-rolling-production-line.html

The Pfizer vaccine is already being manufactured…. it’s coming lads!

LT42

Can’t say I’ll be rushing out to put the vaccine in my arm just yet. I’ll wait and see how the first wave goes I reckon. There’s been some weird feedback from some trials of the ones in the States from Prof. Hotez. The fact they’re all being rushed isn’t helping either.

Jules72

LT42 what do you mean by weird LT?

303abuser

LT42 i’m all for vaccines, but there’s no way i’ll be first in line for public beta testing. forget long term impacts, they’re going to rush this so badly that they won’t even know the short term consequences.

LT42

Jules72 Not working across the board for trial subjects, making some very sick, side effects etc. Hotez reckons even if one came next Summer it would be way too fast to roll out, a world record actually. We still don’t know enough about it and scientists are still disagreeing on certain aspects. The pressure to roll one out is immense and unfortunately profit margins are being put before safety.

Jules72

LT42 admittedly never heard of the guy - will take a look… I was only aware of the one person falling ill in the Oxford trial

LT42

Jules72 He’s talking specifically about trials done in the US also, I’m not aware of any details with Euro labs but there has to be similar outcomes as that’s how trials go. I’d just be wary of any company who says they have the answer given the time frames involved. Herd Immunity might increase, that’s a positive anyway.

Smallman1

Count me in for the vaccine.

And see you on the d-floor lads!

Millsy

Do you want to know what my vaccine is?

Minerals.

Jules72

So Ireland has 3 deaths on average per week most recently, but has implemented a 6 week lockdown…. complete overreaction imo

LT42

Jules72 It’s to do with the ICU and general hospital capacity, Jules. The healthcare system has been neglected for years and now they’re paying the price. We’ve been at 1k cases a day for at least a week now.

LT42

303abuser Yeah that’s it, it’s too early to be diving in for me. Defo going to wait. Remains to be seen how it will work aswell in terms of “ledging it at the coalface”, are you going to have a barcode stamped on your neck to say you’ve had it? That whole era is yet to be known and judging by how things are being run now I can see it being another massive clusterfuck.

Smallman1

If the short term consequence is I can get back to ledging it at the coalface, then I’m all in 303.

303abuser

Smallman1 hopefully that’s the only consequence. i’d be all over it if i knew that for sure.

bosstrabs

LT42 are you going to have a barcode stamped on your neck

We will have. Smallman’s neck’s so long he can have his entire medical records printed there though.

303abuser

LT42 yeah the next couple of years are going to be interesting. i’m honestly wondering when everyone figures out that the vulnerable are staying home and everyone else is going back to normal with some risk acceptance, vaccine or not.

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