The General Covid19 Thread

alistair

Smallman1

What absolutely fantastic news, let’s get going!

Jules72

Let’s see if they can manage to get this done without cocking it up…. can the regulatory authorities here be trusted? Seems a very quick approval

Hursty

Jules72 Who cares now? They will do it anyway and if it allows normality to resume then get on with it.

If it protects the most vulnerable, over 60s to be safe then crack on.

LT42

Unless it’s mandatory for travel I won’t be rushing out to get a jab, no fucking way.
I understand why people are relieved/excited but it’s at least 4 years earlier than the previous vaccine record. Hopefully it gets the machine running again but count me out of the experiment.

Millsy

Why? Its a vaccine that works in the same way other vaccines work, by initiating an immune response to antigens.

LT42

Millsy I’m not anti-vax, let’s just get that out of the way but because its been rushed, there are immunologists who are uncomfortable with how it’s been rushed, and we don’t know the long term effects yet as they haven’t been thoroughly researched. It’s been rushed by people with vested interests too. Overall it makes me uncomfortable and people far smarter than I on the subject feel the same way. Now I’ve bought dust off unknowns in back alleys over the years and not had a bother handing over my hard earned but I’ve never had a flu shot, I’m rarely ill outside of food poisoning and I don’t need to be 1st in line for this one.

Smallman1

All in for the vaccine!

Kumquat

LT42 You should be happy mate. With you being in a country that’s still part of the EU at least you’re going to get one of the decent vaccines and not the third rate one the UK’s going to roll out for the majority of people.

mono-stereo

Kumquat Why is the UK vaccine third rate?

-si-

Kumquat With you being in a country that’s still part of the EU at least you’re going to get one of the decent vaccines and not the third rate one the UK’s going to roll out for the majority of people.

Eh?

Jules72

Given I’m under 50 I won’t be getting one for at least a few months and will see if many adverse reactions. You might be right on some long term risk although if you are concerned then you should probably go for the Astra Zeneca - it’s a modified version of their Ebola vaccine which has been around for some time without issues (I believe). Longer term this is the only way society gets rid (or substantially lowers its prevalence) of this virus… so arguably we have a duty to take it imo

mono-stereo

Surely if everyone holds off to let others be the guinea pigs the whole thing is pointless.

LT42

mono-stereo You don’t need 100% of the community to take a vaccine to achieve herd immunity. In the next 6 months, there will be a broad percentage of society that will have been immunised making it safer for the rest of the population. Otherwise every vaccine that came along would mandatory. I’ve been led to believe for the last 8 months that all this was to protect the elderly anyway.

Smallman1

It’s the GREAT British vaccine.

Hursty

I won’t be having one either, as I’m far too young and have a decent immune system.

Im all for it being rolled out to the people who need it though, a great achievement as long as it pans out alright for all concerned.

If no other countries approve it by next week then it definitely seems the Uk are the guinea pig or lab rats for this.

Old-Dutch

The vaccine has actually been in development for years - this is the reason they’ve been able to launch it so quickly:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55041371

-si-

Heard that this morning myself Dutchy. Not sure what some people think is being unleashed on the population but fairly sure it will not make you grow a third ear, a nose on your forehead or a long neck…

Mad_Cyril

-si-
Wouldn’t mind an extra inch or two in the truncheon dept.

Mad_Cyril

For those opting out….

What if you get it and suffer reduced lung function as permanent side-effect, or worse?

Or pass it on to someone who suffers similar, or worse.

I’m not criticising you personally, but find it hard to reconcile a position thats less based on science and data than an approved vaccine.

LT42

Mad_Cyril Who’s opting out? Not fighting over the front of the queue isn’t opting out. Waiting a few months to see how things go with the rollout is smart.

bosstrabs

Mad_Cyril For those opting out….

What if you get it and suffer reduced lung function as permanent side-effect, or worse?

Or pass it on to someone who suffers similar, or worse.

I’m not criticising you personally, but find it hard to reconcile a position thats less based on science and data than an approved vaccine.

I will have the vaccine, but people having some reservations about vaccines is not completely irrational. Read about Gulf War syndrome, and also look at the billions of dollars Pfizer have had to pay in fines over the years.

Hursty

Mad_Cyril For me, statistically for someone of my age and health it is highly unlikely to happen.

With regards to spreading it, does a vaccine stop you contracting Covid? I don’t think so, does it stop you spreading it? I’m not sure. Does it help those who are at risk fight the virus? Absolutely.

If they start asking young healthy adults in their prime to get vaccinated I would be very surprised.

-si-

Mad_Cyril Wouldn’t mind an extra inch or two in the truncheon dept.

I just sent £1000 to some guy who was advertising on porn hub. Apparently i am getting 4 inches in just a week. Will send you the before and after pics and you can make your own mind up, mate! Looks legit.

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